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    Ehi! Attualmente mi trovo all’aeroporto di Monaco con 5 ore di ritardo sul mio volo per Amsterdam. Questa è già la mia nuova prenotazione, quindi ho una domanda. Devo essere in Olanda al più presto, ma non ho bisogno di essere ad Amsterdam di per sé. Il NS (il sistema ferroviario nazionale olandese) è letteralmente inattivo, quindi ho intenzione di viaggiare con DB e di abbandonare il mio volo. QUESTO percorso con DB è abbastanza affidabile per portarmi a destinazione o rimarrò ulteriormente bloccato in Germania?

    EDIT: dopo aver letto attentamente tutti i consigli (grazie mille), per ora ho deciso di prendere il volo e vedere da lì. Poiché alcuni di voi potrebbero non sapere il motivo per cui sono giunto a questa conclusione: Schiphol, l’aeroporto di Amsterdam, ha cancellato i voli durante il fine settimana e si è esteso fino a ORA martedì a causa di problemi meteorologici. Il mio volo di ieri è stato cancellato, si tratta di una nuova prenotazione. Questo è uno degli unici DUE voli che volano ancora oggi da Monaco ad Amsterdam. Che è più dello 0 del giorno prima. Tuttavia, non è raro che le persone aspettino ore in questi giorni prima che i loro voli vengano, purtroppo, cancellati… In quanto tale, Schiphol è un posto infernale in cui trovarsi…

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    1. BurnerBowie on

      You must be really desperate to abandon a flight for a journey with DB during snowfall…

    2. -gean99- on

      I would recommend using the official DB website to look for a fitting route.

    3. Tammur92 on

      Don’t use the train in Germany if you want to be on time.

    4. DrProfSrRyan on

      The most important part is the time between connections. DB is almost always some amount late. If the connection requires you to run to another platform as soon as you arrive, DB will make sure you never get the chance.

      Look for connections around 1hr to be safe. 

    6. Kaasungen on

      Reading “DB” and “reliable” in the same sentence made me giggle. Especially in combination with the need to be somewhere asap. If I were you I wouldnt risk it tbh.

    7. SkinnyMacBone on

      Taking DB would definitely be a risky move, especially during snowfall. You could take the ICE train from Munich to Frankfurt, then from there the ICE sprinter to Cologne, those are relatively safe and fast, will probably get expensive though and idk the connections from Cologne to NL..

    8. prinzeugn on

      DB is sketchy always, but the snow overnight isn’t going to help.

    9. vogelvogelvogelvogel on

      go [bahn.de](http://bahn.de) (or DB navigator app)

      calculate like 60% trains are only on time

      so when changes are, you might need to catch the following train (many run like hourly). very good plan is to check when the next train runs or plan times for changing trains longer (works both on website and app)

      but: Dutch railways are suspended with switch malfunctions, idk what runs there, [bahn.de](http://bahn.de) should know

    10. KrisHusky on

      Just avoid the RE2 between Göttingen and Hannover. A few days ago a cargo train derailed and caused serious damage.
      From Kassel-Wilhelmshöhe take the RE11 to Altenbeken and get into the S5 to Hannover-Flughafen. It stops at Hannover Hauptbahnhof too.

    11. Volvo-Performer on

      Just do. You won’t be later there then already is.

    12. ex1nax on

      Take the flight or book a car. Flight is still going to be the faster option.

    13. yungsausages on

      I’d recommend you use the DB app to plan the route and not Google Maps, good luck. Must be in quite a mess to pick DB in the snow over a flight rip

    14. AdApart3821 on

      Taking the ICE to Hannover and then another ICE from Hannover towards Amsterdam certainly is more reliable than having lots of smaller trains with lots of stops and connections. Also, right now there is not so much snow forecast for today. However, nobody knows if it will work out. Meteorologists say the weather generally has the potential to cause hefty snow fall locally, it seems a bit instable.

      Also, as the Netherlands train system is down and could stay so until you arrive at the border, it is quiet possible that you will not be able to travel the last leg towards the Netherlands even if everything works out fine in Germany. It is also not sure you would be able to rent a car in NorthWestern Germany to go to the Netherlands, as car rentals tend to be sold out if the train system fails because of weather.

      Personally, I would probably expect the airport in Amsterdam to be cleared faster than you would be able to travel to the Netherlands by train from Munich Airport, but I can’t know of course, and even if the airport is cleared then still a lot of planes and passengers will be stuck where they do not belong, so your flight might even be canceled.

      I think if I were in Munich needing to go to Amsterdam as quick as possible I would probably try to take a train to Hannover and reevaluate there – possibly getting a rental car there or in Bremen or Osnabrück to get to the Netherlands if the train system is still not working then.

    16. nonchip on

      so let’s recap:
      – the trains are out
      – you have a flight in 5 hours
      – so you want to take multiple trains for 9 hours
      – all of which will be late because the DB doesn’t know about the concept of weather
      – none of which will be waiting because the DB doesn’t care about you

      take that flight. then rent a car or take a bus or even taxi from amsterdam.

    20. rewboss on

      > The NS (Dutch national train system) is all litterally down, so I plan on travelling via DB

      So how are you going to get from the border to wherever it is you need to be going?

      > will I further get stuck in Germany?

      If the Dutch rail network is down, it’s likely there will be serious issues on the German side near the border. And we can’t predict what effects the weather will have: heavy snowfalls could bring trees down onto the line, ice could damage the catenaries or freeze up points, anything can happen.

    23. Crow-Ashamed on

      You will most likely get stuck with db at some point. Unfortunately the flight is your safest option

    24. DJ-Glock on

      You may get into the worse trouble with Deutsche Bahn and get much longer delay.

    25. Chocolat_Melon on

      Well you’re not gonna make it in time using German Railway that’s for sure. I guess your best bet would be to find a long haul taxi but that’s also iffy and going to be insanely expensive.

    26. MrDrunkenKnight on

      Flixbus? However it’s not so comfortable to sit in the bus for 12 hours or so… but there are tickets for about 60-70€

    28. alexanderslash on

      Hi, we are in Amsterdam right now. All flights are cancelled to and from Amsterdam. we waited for 2 days in the airport, and we had only promises. I suggest flying to Brussels and coming by train or car from there

    29. AnGuSxD on

      The Hannover Area and generally northern Germany has quite some problems because of the snow, you have to expect delays and train cancellations. At least that was the case with our trains yesterday.

    30. lostmylogindetails2 on

      Take the Cologne flight if possible, you may then have more alternatives to reach NL. Bla bla, rent a car, train, bus.

    31. pandito_flexo on

      Ah DB. Fond memories of my friend and I running up and down stairs with suitcases because they keep changing platforms. One of my suitcase handles exploded (I was able to repair it) in Köln.

      OP, just take the flight. DB is the peak of German inefficiency. Actually, walking might get you there faster.

    33. Straight_Page_8585 on

      I think the most reliable way will be to rent a car and drive that distance yourself.

    34. Vivid_Wallaby9728 on

      Why not take a flight close to the border?

      For example Münster Osnabrück or Bremen.

      From Bremen to Leer works fine by train. Yes some cancellations but also a lot of regional trains.

    35. Robtop465 on

      Fuck no, delays over delays and up North here it’s so snowed up, that most trains are canceled entirely. Sorry to tell you.

    36. Formal_Platypus_8671 on

      Dont use Deutsche Bahn if you have a critical appointment. DB is nearly always late if you travel through Germany. If flying doesn’t is an option, I would recommend car rental.

    37. Bolter_NL on

      Check for flixbus. It’s slow, but cheap but it will arrive.

      My real advice: wait for your flight. 

    38. ExplanationDeep7468 on

      Nah, take a flight. Trains in Germany are unreliable especially in such weather conditions.

    41. vireovirgo on

      If you only have to be in NL why not go to Aachen and take a bus to NL

    42. Wiesel2203 on

      ICE connections are relatively reliable compared to other train options offered by DB AB.

      But one thing you can count on with DB is that you can’t.

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