It’s a bit like saying the hitman’s not responsible for murder, only the person who paid for the hit.
PoppedCork on
That will come back to haunt him.
champagneface on
“Every government department will obviously make its own decision with regard to that, but it’s not necessarily the app that’s making the images.
Is it not??
jumpbutton23 on
Cowardly bollocks.
Musk has explicitly pitched GROK as the ‘edgier’ less-PC AI chatbot – he has actively livetweeted his process of demanding it allign with him more politically over time, which is what cranks like him mean when they bemoan wokeness or political bias; they are just annoyed its not biased towards their slant.
With that comes things like the ‘nudify’ aspect of GROK’s image manipulation features. It is a FEATURE, not a bug. It is something Musk likes even more now because it “triggers” the people he dislikes. It is absolutely, categorically a selling point of GROK, and the X platform in general. This apologia is absolutely pathetic.
2026 is going to be a landmark year for the destruction of idea we live in a rules/decency-based society – and especially that our politicians (be they Irish or at the EU level) do so too. In a fair, reasonable society, this issue would have been dealt with two days ago. But they will not act on X or GROK because the US explicitly does not want its tech giants to be restricted in any way, shape or form. So despite the obvious moral wrongness of the situation to everyone and their dog; we’ll keep getting mealy-mouthed SHITE like this as an excuse.
It doesn’t matter if it’s this issue, or Shannon airport, or condemnations of US interventionalism; there is zero point in us, the little people, actually debating these things on Reddit cos the reality is that the economic power in the world, the US, decides what is ‘right’ and our lads just go along with it.
dustaz on
It’s fuckin mental that this is the only area of media publishing where they try to claim this.
TV, Radio, Print, Publishing all have a very very long history of the publisher being responsible for the content.
What’s also funny is that when you upload copyright material, they’re pretty on the ball about monitoring and removing that
denbo786 on
Someone is hoping to land a job at X/Grok/Twitterwhatever
Plastic_Detective687 on
Bold to come out pro-pedophilia but here we are
drinksinshower on
If you go down this path then all sorts of criminal content or crimes committed by AI will go unpunished while the creators reap the rewards. And of course this is what they are planning on.
MagpiesAlive on
How depressing to know that the production of CSAM isn’t a red line for politicians. Makes you wonder if the red line even exists. Cowardly and shameful load of c*nts.
““no other right that trumps the right of a child to be protected”. He added that “no amount of convincing me that data protection is more important than child protection is ever going to win out”.”
It’s actually people’s jobs to produce illicit images on LLMs. The fact the Grok was able to churn out such pictures is a failure of the company, the users expose and abuse it.
Absolute nonsense.
TheBatmanIRL on
Be interesting so to see if they take action against this AI porn / girlfriend apps that are allegedly being targeted at kids or do they give that a pass too.
stuyboi888 on
Ahh lining it up well to have us use ID for social media. Great stuff.. .
StickAdventurous8237 on
Politicians will never punish X over this. They rely on this site to spread misinformation about the opposition, they need it to influence election results, they need it to stay in power. How else can you explain how spineless they are when protecting vulnerable children against sexual abuse online?
Pathetic cowards!
Xamesito on
We are governed by corporate lapdogs I swear. They would never do anything to upset them. This is a disgrace.
Admirable-Farmer-665 on
But Reddit etc are legally responsible for the content shared on theirs? Christ almighty
Spiritual_Mall_3140 on
Hold the individual users accountable so.
DirkPower on
He needs to go. This is untenable. He’s not remotely fit for or even interested in being minister for arts and media
GerKoll on
If you give someone a platform to present, distribute and share this disgusting shit you are responsible.
Griss27 on
This is insane. If a person buys a pencil and paper and draw CSAM, that’s on the user, as they are the one who has created it. If a person downloads photoshop and creates CSAM, that’s on the user too – they are the one who has created it. In both those scenarios, if they were requested to do so by someone else, it still falls on them as the creator.
In the scenario with Grok AI, the “user” is actually the requester. The actual “creator” is the AI itself. This is blatantly obvious to anyone who has used one of these image generation AIs. Sure, go after the person requesting the content. But DEFINITELY go after the person creating the content too, which in this case is the X / Twitter corporation and its AI.
Incorrect, cowardly, disgusting.
DickDorkinsHeadCanon on
wild that they are forcing digital IDs on but allowing twitter to do what they want. Not sure if this guy is a just coward or a legit danger, but this is exactly why politicians excluding themselves from Chat Control is a huge red flag.
RedstoneNoob55 on
This guy’s logic: let’s violate everyone’s right to privacy to “protect children” online, but when it comes to actually protecting children online, his excuse is it’s not the company’s fault for allowing users to generate CSAM and store it on their servers.
Lord_of_Blackhaven on
This is up there with “guns don’t kill people, people do.”
The bottom line is that every government in the world is afraid of upsetting Trump and his billionaire backers. And if that means letting their platforms create sexually explicit images of kids then so be it. The world is gone.
dkeenaghan on
AI isn’t smart, it’s not creative. It reconfigures what it has seen before through training and spits it back out. Yes transformed into something “new” by combining various bits of data, but bits of data it has seen before.
I don’t know if it’s still the case for all AI models but recently enough AIs couldn’t produce a picture of a full glass of wine. It didn’t matter what you told it to do, “fill it to the brim”, “fill it so it’s overflowing”, etc. All it could do was produce a picture of a glass of wine with a generous amount of wine in it, but not full to the brim. No matter the follow up prompts, it couldn’t do it. That’s because there are very few images of glasses of wine that are full to the brim on the internet, it’s just not a thing people take photos of. So AI image generation doesn’t know how to do it.
I just tried it there and the first AI generator I used still can’t do it.
So all this blathering on about wine glasses leads me to this. I haven’t seen the images that X will generate and I’ve no intention to look for them to help answer this question. Were the generated images just reconfigured and scaled down versions of images of adults, or not. If not, what was the AI trained on, and why isn’t that being investigated? How certain are we that this isn’t just about the generation of CSAM, but also the use and commercial exploitation of it? If X aren’t responsible for the generation (which is bullshit) then are they responsible for what it was trained on?
FootFalse5536 on
What??? X and Musk are 100% responsible for this. They are able to control any part of their own platform. They can police and monitor their own platform. They can stop their own shitty AI from making CP on their own platform and they can kick the users trying to make it off their own platform.
freshfrosted on
This fella genuinely hasn’t a notion has he? and the minister for AI who said something like I know nothing about it but sure I’ll learn on the job when she was appointed, be grand.
LegitimateLagomorph on
So Elon Musk is allowed to make an AI that generates CSAM and it’s not their fault but they want to add a bunch of restrictions to citizens to ‘protect the children’?
Just say how much Musk donated to your retirement fund.
ApprehensiveNews3460 on
He looks as mealy mouthed in this photo as his utterances…
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It’s a bit like saying the hitman’s not responsible for murder, only the person who paid for the hit.
That will come back to haunt him.
“Every government department will obviously make its own decision with regard to that, but it’s not necessarily the app that’s making the images.
Is it not??
Cowardly bollocks.
Musk has explicitly pitched GROK as the ‘edgier’ less-PC AI chatbot – he has actively livetweeted his process of demanding it allign with him more politically over time, which is what cranks like him mean when they bemoan wokeness or political bias; they are just annoyed its not biased towards their slant.
With that comes things like the ‘nudify’ aspect of GROK’s image manipulation features. It is a FEATURE, not a bug. It is something Musk likes even more now because it “triggers” the people he dislikes. It is absolutely, categorically a selling point of GROK, and the X platform in general. This apologia is absolutely pathetic.
2026 is going to be a landmark year for the destruction of idea we live in a rules/decency-based society – and especially that our politicians (be they Irish or at the EU level) do so too. In a fair, reasonable society, this issue would have been dealt with two days ago. But they will not act on X or GROK because the US explicitly does not want its tech giants to be restricted in any way, shape or form. So despite the obvious moral wrongness of the situation to everyone and their dog; we’ll keep getting mealy-mouthed SHITE like this as an excuse.
It doesn’t matter if it’s this issue, or Shannon airport, or condemnations of US interventionalism; there is zero point in us, the little people, actually debating these things on Reddit cos the reality is that the economic power in the world, the US, decides what is ‘right’ and our lads just go along with it.
It’s fuckin mental that this is the only area of media publishing where they try to claim this.
TV, Radio, Print, Publishing all have a very very long history of the publisher being responsible for the content.
What’s also funny is that when you upload copyright material, they’re pretty on the ball about monitoring and removing that
Someone is hoping to land a job at X/Grok/Twitterwhatever
Bold to come out pro-pedophilia but here we are
If you go down this path then all sorts of criminal content or crimes committed by AI will go unpunished while the creators reap the rewards. And of course this is what they are planning on.
How depressing to know that the production of CSAM isn’t a red line for politicians. Makes you wonder if the red line even exists. Cowardly and shameful load of c*nts.
https://preview.redd.it/gd6qodd775cg1.png?width=642&format=png&auto=webp&s=df72072eb27473ae75f78945ee8ffc6f03d2d5f4
Same minister 4 days ago.
““no other right that trumps the right of a child to be protected”. He added that “no amount of convincing me that data protection is more important than child protection is ever going to win out”.”
Irish Daily mail was the original interview [https://www.irishtimes.com/business/2026/01/06/government-digital-wallet-could-be-a-pr-disaster-in-the-making/](https://www.irishtimes.com/business/2026/01/06/government-digital-wallet-could-be-a-pr-disaster-in-the-making/)
It’s actually people’s jobs to produce illicit images on LLMs. The fact the Grok was able to churn out such pictures is a failure of the company, the users expose and abuse it.
Absolute nonsense.
Be interesting so to see if they take action against this AI porn / girlfriend apps that are allegedly being targeted at kids or do they give that a pass too.
Ahh lining it up well to have us use ID for social media. Great stuff.. .
Politicians will never punish X over this. They rely on this site to spread misinformation about the opposition, they need it to influence election results, they need it to stay in power. How else can you explain how spineless they are when protecting vulnerable children against sexual abuse online?
Pathetic cowards!
We are governed by corporate lapdogs I swear. They would never do anything to upset them. This is a disgrace.
But Reddit etc are legally responsible for the content shared on theirs? Christ almighty
Hold the individual users accountable so.
He needs to go. This is untenable. He’s not remotely fit for or even interested in being minister for arts and media
If you give someone a platform to present, distribute and share this disgusting shit you are responsible.
This is insane. If a person buys a pencil and paper and draw CSAM, that’s on the user, as they are the one who has created it. If a person downloads photoshop and creates CSAM, that’s on the user too – they are the one who has created it. In both those scenarios, if they were requested to do so by someone else, it still falls on them as the creator.
In the scenario with Grok AI, the “user” is actually the requester. The actual “creator” is the AI itself. This is blatantly obvious to anyone who has used one of these image generation AIs. Sure, go after the person requesting the content. But DEFINITELY go after the person creating the content too, which in this case is the X / Twitter corporation and its AI.
Incorrect, cowardly, disgusting.
wild that they are forcing digital IDs on but allowing twitter to do what they want. Not sure if this guy is a just coward or a legit danger, but this is exactly why politicians excluding themselves from Chat Control is a huge red flag.
This guy’s logic: let’s violate everyone’s right to privacy to “protect children” online, but when it comes to actually protecting children online, his excuse is it’s not the company’s fault for allowing users to generate CSAM and store it on their servers.
This is up there with “guns don’t kill people, people do.”
The bottom line is that every government in the world is afraid of upsetting Trump and his billionaire backers. And if that means letting their platforms create sexually explicit images of kids then so be it. The world is gone.
AI isn’t smart, it’s not creative. It reconfigures what it has seen before through training and spits it back out. Yes transformed into something “new” by combining various bits of data, but bits of data it has seen before.
I don’t know if it’s still the case for all AI models but recently enough AIs couldn’t produce a picture of a full glass of wine. It didn’t matter what you told it to do, “fill it to the brim”, “fill it so it’s overflowing”, etc. All it could do was produce a picture of a glass of wine with a generous amount of wine in it, but not full to the brim. No matter the follow up prompts, it couldn’t do it. That’s because there are very few images of glasses of wine that are full to the brim on the internet, it’s just not a thing people take photos of. So AI image generation doesn’t know how to do it.
I just tried it there and the first AI generator I used still can’t do it.
So all this blathering on about wine glasses leads me to this. I haven’t seen the images that X will generate and I’ve no intention to look for them to help answer this question. Were the generated images just reconfigured and scaled down versions of images of adults, or not. If not, what was the AI trained on, and why isn’t that being investigated? How certain are we that this isn’t just about the generation of CSAM, but also the use and commercial exploitation of it? If X aren’t responsible for the generation (which is bullshit) then are they responsible for what it was trained on?
What??? X and Musk are 100% responsible for this. They are able to control any part of their own platform. They can police and monitor their own platform. They can stop their own shitty AI from making CP on their own platform and they can kick the users trying to make it off their own platform.
This fella genuinely hasn’t a notion has he? and the minister for AI who said something like I know nothing about it but sure I’ll learn on the job when she was appointed, be grand.
So Elon Musk is allowed to make an AI that generates CSAM and it’s not their fault but they want to add a bunch of restrictions to citizens to ‘protect the children’?
Just say how much Musk donated to your retirement fund.
He looks as mealy mouthed in this photo as his utterances…