Well I for one am shocked – shocked! – that he’s open to the idea of slapping ID verification on more things.
StGuthlac2025 on
I’ll be interested to see what happens with mental health of young people over the years if he does.
Also we’re going to be in this weird situation where children will not be allowed to use social media into the run up of an election and yet be trusted to also end up voting in the election depending on where their birthday lands.
DanS1993 on
Give 16 year olds the vote, then take away TikTok and instagram from people who’ll be 16-18 at the next election. It’s an interesting strategy…
Gentle_Snail on
Speaking as someone who grew up with social media, ban it. Social media can get fucked and I don’t think it offers really any benefits to children.
BrockChocolate on
So are they being paid by VPN providers or ID Verification sites? 🤔
Humble_Dirt_5751 on
Can we ban it for adults next, getting rid of x and Facebook etc will save billions on mental health costs each year.
Exige_ on
I’m not entirely sure if there is a logical argument against this kind of ban tbh.
People say it should be down to parents but as soon as kids in the same class have accounts set up then I can set how the attraction spreads like wildfire. At that point there is just too much pressure and most will give in.
Rialagma on
We should wait and see how it goes in Australia after researchers are able to publish their findings there
jeremybeadleshand on
>he had become alarmed at reports about five-year-olds spending hours in front of screens each day
It would be nice to hear an MP call these shitty parents out for once. It’s like the minute you have kids in this country you can do no wrong or something, god forbid they upset the mumsnet vote.
Capital-Mortgage-374 on
Not a fan of Starmer. However, I would support this. Too many kids are brainwashed online and have access to content that is not appropriate. The small communities they form lead to social contagion.
thereforewhat on
Please don’t, leave it down to parents to teach their children about this.
That’s where the education and the encouragement should lie.
Parents know their children best here.
Coconut681 on
I’d prefer some better regulation of social media. Less fake news, less bots, less rage bait, less inappropriate content. Make the social media companies responsible for what’s on their platforms. Banning it for young people isn’t actually fixing the issues as they’ll just find workarounds.
Famous-Drawing1215 on
I’m glad, social media is cancer for young minds. We don’t even understand the full impact of it, however what we do know is pretty awful. The generation currently in school that haven’t had restrictions on mobile photos social media use are fucked. They won’t be able to hold down a meaningful job easily.
BlGBY on
Cue all the redditors addicted to social media to chime in and say why its actually a bad thing.
TheCharalampos on
I’ve spoke to friends who are middle school teachers and they despair, it’s clear that some kids have used social media as their primary outlet for years.
This stuff is harming kids and a lot. Just demanding parents take responsibility will do squat.
NUFC9RW on
The issue is about how they enforce it, I’ve yet to see any reliable non invasive way to verify age online. I’d say the only benefit of social media in secondary was adding people on Facebook so that we could message easily (a lot more convenient than trading numbers), be it for social or schoolwork purposes.
sad_126 on
At this point we might aswell lock off the whole Internet and just make our own heavily restricted version like north korea, Google is almost there.
Hollywood-is-DOA on
They really want social media to die off then? It gets people addicted from a young and that continues into then being adults.
Obviously you’ve got a generation of 20-40 years already addicted.
aehii on
It’s tricky, there are negatives of course but people will be exposed to socialism and actual news on social media in a way they aren’t from mainstream media. There’s many who only understand what’s happening in Palestine through tik tok. That is essential.
I guess they can get this information from YouTube. There’s still a lot of young people who can’t necessarily find friends who like the same things as them, and the internet allows that.
I’d say the positives outweigh the negatives, we just never hear about the positives.
Vivid_Employment8635 on
Stupid and unenforceable idea. Social media, unfortunately, is part of life. It would be much better to start teaching kids about how to use it responsibly and how to identify propaganda/scams/etc.
SP1570 on
Let’s observe the Australian experience and then implement this…I hate bans, but this makes sense
vriska1 on
> Officials say Liz Kendall, the technology secretary, is also open to the idea of a ban, with a final decision expected within months.
OffMyChestATM on
Banning the app does nothing. NOTHING.
TEACH THESE PARENTS HOW TO PARENT.
SET UP GUIDES. SET UP PARENT SESSIONS.
Most smart phones these days have parental tools to mitigate all of these shit. As someone who has even left twitter and Facebook, banning the app for kids is not the fix. If they are going to ban it, might as well ban it for the populace. Otherwise, this is a knowledge issue.
AnimeBritGuy on
Do people not remember what Social media was like when we were teens? In the late 2000’s to early 2010’s when I was at secondary school it was awful. If you had a fight it was filmed and shared all over facebook and you were bullied for weeks. Boys were posting their self harm pictures online and encouraging each other to do worse things to themselves as a competition to do the most harm to themselves. Girls were in eating disorder Tumblrs and Twitters sharing pics of them starving themselves and again encouraging each other to eat less and less.
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Well I for one am shocked – shocked! – that he’s open to the idea of slapping ID verification on more things.
I’ll be interested to see what happens with mental health of young people over the years if he does.
Also we’re going to be in this weird situation where children will not be allowed to use social media into the run up of an election and yet be trusted to also end up voting in the election depending on where their birthday lands.
Give 16 year olds the vote, then take away TikTok and instagram from people who’ll be 16-18 at the next election. It’s an interesting strategy…
Speaking as someone who grew up with social media, ban it. Social media can get fucked and I don’t think it offers really any benefits to children.
So are they being paid by VPN providers or ID Verification sites? 🤔
Can we ban it for adults next, getting rid of x and Facebook etc will save billions on mental health costs each year.
I’m not entirely sure if there is a logical argument against this kind of ban tbh.
People say it should be down to parents but as soon as kids in the same class have accounts set up then I can set how the attraction spreads like wildfire. At that point there is just too much pressure and most will give in.
We should wait and see how it goes in Australia after researchers are able to publish their findings there
>he had become alarmed at reports about five-year-olds spending hours in front of screens each day
It would be nice to hear an MP call these shitty parents out for once. It’s like the minute you have kids in this country you can do no wrong or something, god forbid they upset the mumsnet vote.
Not a fan of Starmer. However, I would support this. Too many kids are brainwashed online and have access to content that is not appropriate. The small communities they form lead to social contagion.
Please don’t, leave it down to parents to teach their children about this.
That’s where the education and the encouragement should lie.
Parents know their children best here.
I’d prefer some better regulation of social media. Less fake news, less bots, less rage bait, less inappropriate content. Make the social media companies responsible for what’s on their platforms. Banning it for young people isn’t actually fixing the issues as they’ll just find workarounds.
I’m glad, social media is cancer for young minds. We don’t even understand the full impact of it, however what we do know is pretty awful. The generation currently in school that haven’t had restrictions on mobile photos social media use are fucked. They won’t be able to hold down a meaningful job easily.
Cue all the redditors addicted to social media to chime in and say why its actually a bad thing.
I’ve spoke to friends who are middle school teachers and they despair, it’s clear that some kids have used social media as their primary outlet for years.
This stuff is harming kids and a lot. Just demanding parents take responsibility will do squat.
The issue is about how they enforce it, I’ve yet to see any reliable non invasive way to verify age online. I’d say the only benefit of social media in secondary was adding people on Facebook so that we could message easily (a lot more convenient than trading numbers), be it for social or schoolwork purposes.
At this point we might aswell lock off the whole Internet and just make our own heavily restricted version like north korea, Google is almost there.
They really want social media to die off then? It gets people addicted from a young and that continues into then being adults.
Obviously you’ve got a generation of 20-40 years already addicted.
It’s tricky, there are negatives of course but people will be exposed to socialism and actual news on social media in a way they aren’t from mainstream media. There’s many who only understand what’s happening in Palestine through tik tok. That is essential.
I guess they can get this information from YouTube. There’s still a lot of young people who can’t necessarily find friends who like the same things as them, and the internet allows that.
I’d say the positives outweigh the negatives, we just never hear about the positives.
Stupid and unenforceable idea. Social media, unfortunately, is part of life. It would be much better to start teaching kids about how to use it responsibly and how to identify propaganda/scams/etc.
Let’s observe the Australian experience and then implement this…I hate bans, but this makes sense
> Officials say Liz Kendall, the technology secretary, is also open to the idea of a ban, with a final decision expected within months.
Banning the app does nothing. NOTHING.
TEACH THESE PARENTS HOW TO PARENT.
SET UP GUIDES. SET UP PARENT SESSIONS.
Most smart phones these days have parental tools to mitigate all of these shit. As someone who has even left twitter and Facebook, banning the app for kids is not the fix. If they are going to ban it, might as well ban it for the populace. Otherwise, this is a knowledge issue.
Do people not remember what Social media was like when we were teens? In the late 2000’s to early 2010’s when I was at secondary school it was awful. If you had a fight it was filmed and shared all over facebook and you were bullied for weeks. Boys were posting their self harm pictures online and encouraging each other to do worse things to themselves as a competition to do the most harm to themselves. Girls were in eating disorder Tumblrs and Twitters sharing pics of them starving themselves and again encouraging each other to eat less and less.
15 years later it is probably so much worse.