>This decision follows a “damning” report by chief inspector Sir Andy Cooke into the force’s handling of the ban on Maccabi Tel Aviv fans attending a match against Aston Villa.
>The report highlighted a “failure of leadership,” criticising the police for a lack of engagement with the Jewish community and using “confirmation bias” to justify the ban.
>Chief Constable Guildford also gave erroneous evidence to MPs, initially denying the use of AI tools, then blaming an “AI hallucination” for incorrect intelligence, including a reference to a non-existent match.
>Mr Guildford has since apologised for the error, clarifying that Microsoft Co Pilot, not Google, was the AI tool responsible for the misleading information.
matjk on
He’s fallen into the PC trap here , it was done for good reason but NOT the reason they made up. It’s like banning children from the Lions enclosure because the children are a danger to the lions, spares the lions blushes and stops him kicking off
BobMonkhaus on
But I read on here that the Maccabi fans were the real evil ones? Did people lie?
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LavaPurple on
Absolutely ridiculous.
He was done for as soon as the Panel had to declare they take funding as part of “Friends of Israel”.
Throwing Britain’s own midlands police chief under the bus – all because he didn’t want this nonesense from a known dangerous “Ultras” group doing to Birmingham what they did in Amsterdam.
Organic-Feedback1686 on
I find it amusing reading people here and on other subs, who defend his doing by saying “he had a good reason”.
No, he did not. He lied. End of story.
ThamesIronworks_24 on
They are some of the worst ‘fans’ in the world. Rightly not allowed into the country and should never be allowed in.
hatwearer2034 on
How do you fumble this? The history of violence was well documented
RadiantRain3574 on
Well done Labour. I am glad this has been tackled head-on. Hopefully other police forces will feel emboldened to be proactive in policing sensitive communities.
Round-Tradition-3890 on
So you’re saying that a panel full of people who get paid by Israel decided to rule in favour of the Israeli narrative? I’m shocked I tell you.
Celtic_Eagle1888 on
Police chief was caught between a rock and a hard place to be fair. Can’t tell the truth about the precious Muslim ‘community’ who’d burn down Birmingham at the mere sight of Israelis.
Deluded_lex on
He lost an employment tribunal worth £820k against a former firearms officer in 2023. Hrs a bad leader.
Darrenb209 on
I’m genuinely shocked and in a bad way at that at how many people seem to think this is political and that the police chief should be able to get away with using false evidence and lying to Parliament just because of *who* they did it *to*.
That *cannot* be allowed to stand if we want a fair and just society. It’s no surprise the home secretary has no confidence in him. *He lied to the government.* What else has he lied to the government about? What else has he used AI to find “evidence” of?
gentle_vik on
and she should now rapidly move to grant her the power to fire him, and then do it.
As well as making it clear anyone related to having made this decision will be fired… remember they lied and covered up that the reason they didn’t want the jewish football club fans to play, was because the locals in Birmingham would commit antisemitic violence against them.
cjuk87 on
Smashed up places before and after the villa game. Sung horrific chants at both. But it’s Israel, so they’re the victims. Commit a genocide and still somehow pretend Israel is the victim. Clown world.
Vast_Description_201 on
For all those defending him, this is a pattern of behaviour that had him retire from the force, leave the force without a senior officer and then get back into the force at the same position. A practice which he banned his officers from doing.
JORGA on
Maccabi fans are violent thugs, the “locals” who gathered in mass protest and threatened disorder if the fans were welcomed are no better.
MMurkle on
So good that we are spending our parliamentary and ministerial time defending the rights of Israeli football hooligans. Definitely should be ministerial priority.
Illustrated-Society on
I’ll be honest, I’ve never seen such effort from a government to investigate a football teams fans being banned from a game… how bizarre…
MichaelBealesBurner on
When Legia hooligans were banned from Villa park there was no months of inquiry.
Burt_Macklin___ on
A surprising amount of liberal minded people are really upset that the police protected British citizens from a bunch of proven Far Right hooligans
Fondant_Decent on
Why did the Dutch say there was no violence/trouble at their local game? That one caught me by surprise
Kindly_Opposite_129 on
# Uk government told what to do by their Zionist masters.
Square-Variation9132 on
The amount of mental gymnastics to defend an established hooligan group
Football hooligan groups have had their movement restricted across Europe for a long long time
Soppydogg on
Apropos of nothing but I “no longer have confidence in the Prime Minister”
My opinion is as about as valid as the Home Secretary.
Scoobilatchi on
This labour government is an absolute joke. Get rid of this shitshow and let Andy Burnham have a go at PM. Fcuk Reform and the Tories by the way.
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>[Home Secretary](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/home-secretary) [Shabana Mahmood](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/shabana-mahmood) has declared she no longer has [confidence](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/confidence) in West Midlands [Police Chief](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/police-chief) Constable Craig Guildford.
>This decision follows a “damning” report by chief inspector Sir Andy Cooke into the force’s handling of the ban on Maccabi Tel Aviv fans attending a match against Aston Villa.
>The report highlighted a “failure of leadership,” criticising the police for a lack of engagement with the Jewish community and using “confirmation bias” to justify the ban.
>Chief Constable Guildford also gave erroneous evidence to MPs, initially denying the use of AI tools, then blaming an “AI hallucination” for incorrect intelligence, including a reference to a non-existent match.
>Mr Guildford has since apologised for the error, clarifying that Microsoft Co Pilot, not Google, was the AI tool responsible for the misleading information.
He’s fallen into the PC trap here , it was done for good reason but NOT the reason they made up. It’s like banning children from the Lions enclosure because the children are a danger to the lions, spares the lions blushes and stops him kicking off
But I read on here that the Maccabi fans were the real evil ones? Did people lie?
[deleted]
Absolutely ridiculous.
He was done for as soon as the Panel had to declare they take funding as part of “Friends of Israel”.
Throwing Britain’s own midlands police chief under the bus – all because he didn’t want this nonesense from a known dangerous “Ultras” group doing to Birmingham what they did in Amsterdam.
I find it amusing reading people here and on other subs, who defend his doing by saying “he had a good reason”.
No, he did not. He lied. End of story.
They are some of the worst ‘fans’ in the world. Rightly not allowed into the country and should never be allowed in.
How do you fumble this? The history of violence was well documented
Well done Labour. I am glad this has been tackled head-on. Hopefully other police forces will feel emboldened to be proactive in policing sensitive communities.
So you’re saying that a panel full of people who get paid by Israel decided to rule in favour of the Israeli narrative? I’m shocked I tell you.
Police chief was caught between a rock and a hard place to be fair. Can’t tell the truth about the precious Muslim ‘community’ who’d burn down Birmingham at the mere sight of Israelis.
He lost an employment tribunal worth £820k against a former firearms officer in 2023. Hrs a bad leader.
I’m genuinely shocked and in a bad way at that at how many people seem to think this is political and that the police chief should be able to get away with using false evidence and lying to Parliament just because of *who* they did it *to*.
That *cannot* be allowed to stand if we want a fair and just society. It’s no surprise the home secretary has no confidence in him. *He lied to the government.* What else has he lied to the government about? What else has he used AI to find “evidence” of?
and she should now rapidly move to grant her the power to fire him, and then do it.
As well as making it clear anyone related to having made this decision will be fired… remember they lied and covered up that the reason they didn’t want the jewish football club fans to play, was because the locals in Birmingham would commit antisemitic violence against them.
Smashed up places before and after the villa game. Sung horrific chants at both. But it’s Israel, so they’re the victims. Commit a genocide and still somehow pretend Israel is the victim. Clown world.
For all those defending him, this is a pattern of behaviour that had him retire from the force, leave the force without a senior officer and then get back into the force at the same position. A practice which he banned his officers from doing.
Maccabi fans are violent thugs, the “locals” who gathered in mass protest and threatened disorder if the fans were welcomed are no better.
So good that we are spending our parliamentary and ministerial time defending the rights of Israeli football hooligans. Definitely should be ministerial priority.
I’ll be honest, I’ve never seen such effort from a government to investigate a football teams fans being banned from a game… how bizarre…
When Legia hooligans were banned from Villa park there was no months of inquiry.
A surprising amount of liberal minded people are really upset that the police protected British citizens from a bunch of proven Far Right hooligans
Why did the Dutch say there was no violence/trouble at their local game? That one caught me by surprise
# Uk government told what to do by their Zionist masters.
The amount of mental gymnastics to defend an established hooligan group
Football hooligan groups have had their movement restricted across Europe for a long long time
Apropos of nothing but I “no longer have confidence in the Prime Minister”
My opinion is as about as valid as the Home Secretary.
This labour government is an absolute joke. Get rid of this shitshow and let Andy Burnham have a go at PM. Fcuk Reform and the Tories by the way.