All this evidence goes to show how far the gardai went to try disable George Nkencho before needing to use a gun. Tasered and pepper sprayed. It’s tragic when mental health drives someone to violence and serious danger to others. I understand they lost a loved one but the family need to realize that those the gardai they are and were abusing most likely saved their lives that day.
captain_kirkles on
Gardaí did their job and neutralised an immediate threat, it’s clear they acted professionally and with dignity in difficult circumstances.
Threats were made to the Garda officer at a rally in support of the dead thug.
The family are only looking for a payout. You’d swear he was a saint, he already assaulted a shop worker.
RoyRobotoRobot on
It’s tragic what happened. Thank God a member of the public was able to film it really helped keep things getting out of control.
BlueBKM on
Gardai did nothing wrong. Mental or not, he was a danger to many and all other methods of neutralising him didn’t work. No one owes their life to keep someone like him alive. He’s not more important.
And fuck PBP trying to import American culture bullshit!
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zz63245 on
Just an FYI a few months later a white (known violent criminal) in Blanch was held up in his house, pointing a gun at the guards. One was injured. He was brought into custody. Alive.
Real_Math_2483 on
The fact that this has been drawn out for so long is a joke. The Gardai were totally justified on the day.
Legitimate-Concernz on
The video shows a situation where many other police forces in Europe(not talking about US, of course they’d shoot him sooner) would have used lethal force sooner.
He’s literally within lunging distance and indeed takes a lunge at a guard with an overhead downward knife strike when they shoot him.
You can clearly see the danger they are in on top of trying to stop him from entering the house where I believe family had restraining orders against him.
Awful situation all round but when you learn the Gardai did try less than lethal options like a taser and pepper spray previous to shooting him, you have to ask what else they could have done in the moment?
SandInTheGears on
I mean, yeah
They were there to arrest him because he’d just stabbed up that manager in the spar down the road. Their thought process doesn’t seem all that hard to follow
jonnieggg on
Was there substance use involved. The failure of non-lethal approaches and his seeming immunity to them suggests an unusually resilient presentation. This can often be associated with stimulant use.
HowDoYouDoFool on
Why is there even a doubt that the Gardaí did anything wrong? The footage is out there and clearly shows them trying to de-escalate by every means possible
sureyouknowurself on
> Sgt Nestor said he initially believed ASU members had fired rubber bullets when Mr Nkencho lunged at them as they appeared to have no effect.
> Sgt Nestor remembered thinking Mr Nkencho had stabbed one ASU officer in the leg as he was getting up off the ground after being tasered.
Above and beyond in trying to preserve his life, they put their lives on the line to try and preserve his.
jacksqualk on
Grateful? What’s with these names. My kid has a friend of Nigerian descent by the name of, Perfect.
CandidContract2030 on
It’s a horrible situation all round. Horrible for the family because they obviously wanted to get medical help well before the incident and horrible for the guards who had to then deal with the situation. But I don’t see what the family are seeking to accomplish here shooting wise. You can’t let an out of control person with a knife attack other people.
Fliptzer on
The Guards acted reasonable. I have no sympathy for anyone exploiting this for political gain or money.
essosee on
Why is no-one calling for greater mental health services after these events?
How many terrible stories do we read monthly where the perpetrator suffered from mental health disorders? The men who kill their families or partners, the woman who killed her boyfriend’s toddler, the guy who stabbed the kids on Parnell Street. ALL these people should have been in care for their serious mental health issues.
What do we have to do to get people the care the need in this country?
douglashyde on
There are three things wrong about this case. The media circus around it. The family suing attempting the State for money and the Guards having to dealing with this suspicion that they done something wrong.
The Gardai has to deal with awful situations all the time, they should never be expected to choose between their own life and someone trying to stab them.
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All this evidence goes to show how far the gardai went to try disable George Nkencho before needing to use a gun. Tasered and pepper sprayed. It’s tragic when mental health drives someone to violence and serious danger to others. I understand they lost a loved one but the family need to realize that those the gardai they are and were abusing most likely saved their lives that day.
Gardaí did their job and neutralised an immediate threat, it’s clear they acted professionally and with dignity in difficult circumstances.
Threats were made to the Garda officer at a rally in support of the dead thug.
The family are only looking for a payout. You’d swear he was a saint, he already assaulted a shop worker.
It’s tragic what happened. Thank God a member of the public was able to film it really helped keep things getting out of control.
Gardai did nothing wrong. Mental or not, he was a danger to many and all other methods of neutralising him didn’t work. No one owes their life to keep someone like him alive. He’s not more important.
And fuck PBP trying to import American culture bullshit!
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Just an FYI a few months later a white (known violent criminal) in Blanch was held up in his house, pointing a gun at the guards. One was injured. He was brought into custody. Alive.
The fact that this has been drawn out for so long is a joke. The Gardai were totally justified on the day.
The video shows a situation where many other police forces in Europe(not talking about US, of course they’d shoot him sooner) would have used lethal force sooner.
He’s literally within lunging distance and indeed takes a lunge at a guard with an overhead downward knife strike when they shoot him.
You can clearly see the danger they are in on top of trying to stop him from entering the house where I believe family had restraining orders against him.
Awful situation all round but when you learn the Gardai did try less than lethal options like a taser and pepper spray previous to shooting him, you have to ask what else they could have done in the moment?
I mean, yeah
They were there to arrest him because he’d just stabbed up that manager in the spar down the road. Their thought process doesn’t seem all that hard to follow
Was there substance use involved. The failure of non-lethal approaches and his seeming immunity to them suggests an unusually resilient presentation. This can often be associated with stimulant use.
Why is there even a doubt that the Gardaí did anything wrong? The footage is out there and clearly shows them trying to de-escalate by every means possible
> Sgt Nestor said he initially believed ASU members had fired rubber bullets when Mr Nkencho lunged at them as they appeared to have no effect.
> Sgt Nestor remembered thinking Mr Nkencho had stabbed one ASU officer in the leg as he was getting up off the ground after being tasered.
Above and beyond in trying to preserve his life, they put their lives on the line to try and preserve his.
Grateful? What’s with these names. My kid has a friend of Nigerian descent by the name of, Perfect.
It’s a horrible situation all round. Horrible for the family because they obviously wanted to get medical help well before the incident and horrible for the guards who had to then deal with the situation. But I don’t see what the family are seeking to accomplish here shooting wise. You can’t let an out of control person with a knife attack other people.
The Guards acted reasonable. I have no sympathy for anyone exploiting this for political gain or money.
Why is no-one calling for greater mental health services after these events?
How many terrible stories do we read monthly where the perpetrator suffered from mental health disorders? The men who kill their families or partners, the woman who killed her boyfriend’s toddler, the guy who stabbed the kids on Parnell Street. ALL these people should have been in care for their serious mental health issues.
What do we have to do to get people the care the need in this country?
There are three things wrong about this case. The media circus around it. The family suing attempting the State for money and the Guards having to dealing with this suspicion that they done something wrong.
The Gardai has to deal with awful situations all the time, they should never be expected to choose between their own life and someone trying to stab them.