Good luck banning VPNs that aren’t even in the jurisdiction of the UK. Most operate abroad, even if the legitimate ones comply with UK law there will many more shady ones that don’t which can be found via search engine.
Deadly_Flipper_Tab on
Tell me you don’t understand VPNs without telling me you don’t understand VPNs.
reliablereindeer on
If they are old enough to use a VPN, then they are old enough to watch porn. They’ve earned it.
M0crt on
It’s simple. Just bring a law in to block TCP port 443…lol
Anyone can make a VPN on pretty much any device or server they like.
BigDogOnTheWindow on
Does this includes corporate VPNs? Work from home needs connection to VPN
Own-Victory473 on
This is honestly just a complete violation of freedom. You pay for your internet which got blocked because parents cant do their job, now theyll ban vpns for the adults who have to pay MORE money to access 18+ content (on top of their internet bill) and now we are being told no, its not good enough? When does this end? What next government mandated microphones incase i say a bad word that offends a childs ears?
Vargrr on
I called this in June last year – just check my history.
It’s about information control and controlling the narrative – something every single Government has lost since the internet got invented.
Historical_Cobbler on
“Labour MP Andrew Cooper supported the decision and highlighted the “risk” of children being driven into “less well-regulated spaces and into virtual private networks” following government restrictions.”
Glad they agree it’s been an utter incompetent failure.
Technology has always been ahead of legislation and shutting down access to internet is only something bad countries do, apparently.
vaskopopa on
It’s got nothing to do with porn and safety. Most of us use vpn to access free sport events or even sport events you can’t even pay to watch from UK. There was a Chelsea vs Ipswitch game that I could only watch from an Australian server. Not to mention minority sports like water polo that generate no interest here.
ierrdunno on
Seems like most commentators didn’t read the article. Whilst I think the premise is unworkable, the discussions are around banning VPNs for under 18s only. It’s not banning ALL VPN use which is nonsense and won’t happen.
SableSnail on
It’s like we are becoming China but with way more crime and homelessness etc.
TokugawaTabby on
I’m mostly scared of them banning downloads of vpn apps on the UK App Store. I live in China and my VPN is the only way I can talk to my family, check my banks seamlessly, etc.
Univeralise on
This is insane,
Most companies use VPNs; Dubai has banned vpns and still they work there same with China.
Just looks like technical incompetence to be honest.
Aaron2793 on
Can’t download it from the Google Play store because it’s banned? Just find an APK with a Google search, really that simple lol.
wisperingdeth on
How the heck can they ban VPN’s when there are even businesses out there, such as my partners’ workplace, who use it for employees working from home???
HogswatchHam on
Interesting title. The government wants a consultation, Labour Lords want to wait for the consultation results, it’s the rest of the HoL pushing on regardless – the same group in the HoL having added the VPN amendment.
Jujubatron on
Congrats to the morons that were cheering social media bans for kids. Instead of you controlling your children you wanted the government involved so here we are.
This led to digital ID and now will lead to VPN ban. Absolute and utter morons. I blame the government as much as the morons supporting that first policy.
LoccyDaBorg on
Let’s just unplug the Internet. That way everyone will be “safe” online.
viva1831 on
This seems technically very difficult. How do you differentiate between a load-blancing proxy and a VPN in law, for example? Does anyone with a an ssh server open to the internet need to do age verification in case of ssh tunelling? And HOW would a text-only protocol even manage that??
MDFHASDIED on
They can fuck right off. I ain’t stopping, it’s the pirate’s life for me… savvy?
TheHess on
Our government are either dangerously stupid or dangerously totalitarian.
InformationNew66 on
Conspiracy theorists right again.
This is now getting so boring. Why do people let the UK inch towards North Korea step by step?
Bert1701 on
I’m glad we’ve solved all the real problems affecting our daily lives and can finally concentrate on making sure we don’t need UK parents to actually bother parenting.
NoPhilosopher3590 on
BuT uK iS a FrEe CoUnTrY.
Its only going to get worse. I will laugh of China ends up being less of a surveillance state than UK.
Dry-Dragonfruit5216 on
Are Labour trying to become completely unelectable?
AMaidzingIdeas on
>”highlighted the “risk” of children being driven into “less well-regulated spaces and into virtual private networks” following government restrictions.”
Yeah imagine if instead of desperately trying to push through legislation designed to both blow the legs out from under the digital literacy of our youth whilst simultaneously spinning a authoritarian web over the internet they actually try to address the problems and created solutions to them.
Nah just ban it lol its 4 duh children.
This halfhead government, i swear.
Geepandjagger on
At what point do people actually stop bending over and taking it. Lots and lots of people moaned about the child safety act but did nothing. Now VPNs again people will moan but not so anything. The whole idea of a degree of personal privacy seems to have evaporated and still everyone just shrugs their shoulders and moves on.
Greyrandir on
Listen to what they are actually saying about VPNs, they genuinely don’t even understand anything that they are talking about.
They’re admitting the ban is causing children to venture into more dangerous websites which was fucking blatantly obvious that it would happen and they’re trying to somehow blame this on VPNs??? Even though VPNs would let people access the more moderate porn sites that follow regulations…
This shit is insane. They can’t even be bothered spending 20 minutes to learn this stuff but want to ban them from public use. Absolutely moronic.
Pwoinklokinoid on
But it’s for the children… We must allow full surveillance of our online activity for the children… If we don’t then the government won’t be able to monitor and censor the media and content your viewing to make sure their voice is the loudest… I mean to protect the children.
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Good luck banning VPNs that aren’t even in the jurisdiction of the UK. Most operate abroad, even if the legitimate ones comply with UK law there will many more shady ones that don’t which can be found via search engine.
Tell me you don’t understand VPNs without telling me you don’t understand VPNs.
If they are old enough to use a VPN, then they are old enough to watch porn. They’ve earned it.
It’s simple. Just bring a law in to block TCP port 443…lol
[Working link to TechRadar](https://www.techradar.com/vpn/vpn-privacy-security/uk-government-targets-vpns-in-new-online-safety-consultation-as-lords-vote-for-ban)
Anyone can make a VPN on pretty much any device or server they like.
Does this includes corporate VPNs? Work from home needs connection to VPN
This is honestly just a complete violation of freedom. You pay for your internet which got blocked because parents cant do their job, now theyll ban vpns for the adults who have to pay MORE money to access 18+ content (on top of their internet bill) and now we are being told no, its not good enough? When does this end? What next government mandated microphones incase i say a bad word that offends a childs ears?
I called this in June last year – just check my history.
It’s about information control and controlling the narrative – something every single Government has lost since the internet got invented.
“Labour MP Andrew Cooper supported the decision and highlighted the “risk” of children being driven into “less well-regulated spaces and into virtual private networks” following government restrictions.”
Glad they agree it’s been an utter incompetent failure.
Technology has always been ahead of legislation and shutting down access to internet is only something bad countries do, apparently.
It’s got nothing to do with porn and safety. Most of us use vpn to access free sport events or even sport events you can’t even pay to watch from UK. There was a Chelsea vs Ipswitch game that I could only watch from an Australian server. Not to mention minority sports like water polo that generate no interest here.
Seems like most commentators didn’t read the article. Whilst I think the premise is unworkable, the discussions are around banning VPNs for under 18s only. It’s not banning ALL VPN use which is nonsense and won’t happen.
It’s like we are becoming China but with way more crime and homelessness etc.
I’m mostly scared of them banning downloads of vpn apps on the UK App Store. I live in China and my VPN is the only way I can talk to my family, check my banks seamlessly, etc.
This is insane,
Most companies use VPNs; Dubai has banned vpns and still they work there same with China.
Just looks like technical incompetence to be honest.
Can’t download it from the Google Play store because it’s banned? Just find an APK with a Google search, really that simple lol.
How the heck can they ban VPN’s when there are even businesses out there, such as my partners’ workplace, who use it for employees working from home???
Interesting title. The government wants a consultation, Labour Lords want to wait for the consultation results, it’s the rest of the HoL pushing on regardless – the same group in the HoL having added the VPN amendment.
Congrats to the morons that were cheering social media bans for kids. Instead of you controlling your children you wanted the government involved so here we are.
This led to digital ID and now will lead to VPN ban. Absolute and utter morons. I blame the government as much as the morons supporting that first policy.
Let’s just unplug the Internet. That way everyone will be “safe” online.
This seems technically very difficult. How do you differentiate between a load-blancing proxy and a VPN in law, for example? Does anyone with a an ssh server open to the internet need to do age verification in case of ssh tunelling? And HOW would a text-only protocol even manage that??
They can fuck right off. I ain’t stopping, it’s the pirate’s life for me… savvy?
Our government are either dangerously stupid or dangerously totalitarian.
Conspiracy theorists right again.
This is now getting so boring. Why do people let the UK inch towards North Korea step by step?
I’m glad we’ve solved all the real problems affecting our daily lives and can finally concentrate on making sure we don’t need UK parents to actually bother parenting.
BuT uK iS a FrEe CoUnTrY.
Its only going to get worse. I will laugh of China ends up being less of a surveillance state than UK.
Are Labour trying to become completely unelectable?
>”highlighted the “risk” of children being driven into “less well-regulated spaces and into virtual private networks” following government restrictions.”
Yeah imagine if instead of desperately trying to push through legislation designed to both blow the legs out from under the digital literacy of our youth whilst simultaneously spinning a authoritarian web over the internet they actually try to address the problems and created solutions to them.
Nah just ban it lol its 4 duh children.
This halfhead government, i swear.
At what point do people actually stop bending over and taking it. Lots and lots of people moaned about the child safety act but did nothing. Now VPNs again people will moan but not so anything. The whole idea of a degree of personal privacy seems to have evaporated and still everyone just shrugs their shoulders and moves on.
Listen to what they are actually saying about VPNs, they genuinely don’t even understand anything that they are talking about.
They’re admitting the ban is causing children to venture into more dangerous websites which was fucking blatantly obvious that it would happen and they’re trying to somehow blame this on VPNs??? Even though VPNs would let people access the more moderate porn sites that follow regulations…
This shit is insane. They can’t even be bothered spending 20 minutes to learn this stuff but want to ban them from public use. Absolutely moronic.
But it’s for the children… We must allow full surveillance of our online activity for the children… If we don’t then the government won’t be able to monitor and censor the media and content your viewing to make sure their voice is the loudest… I mean to protect the children.