Something that really strikes me about this case is that one of the Gardai, objecting to bail (which was granted), pointed out the maximum sentence is 10 years.
If you want to kill someone in this country, running them over with a vehicle seems to carry a lot less penalty than other methods.
>[Garda McDaniel] said he was objecting to bail given the seriousness of the offence and a sentence of up to 10 years in prison if convicted.
HouseOnnaHill on
That article was just edited thats so strange. I just read it and it said something like:
“Mr Lee’s attorney has said he has dyslexia and ADHD and…”,
I was about to point out the ridiculousness of it.
AlwaysSunnyInEire on
Killed a child on Sunday. Sleeping in his own bed on Tuesday.
Something is seriously wrong with our justice system.
sarahc888 on
Grand so nothing is going to change basically. That poor family’s lives have been changed forever.
ThreeTreesForTheePls on
> Judge Áine Clancy granted him bail with a number of conditions.
> The teenager cannot drive mechanically propelling vehicles including a car or any kind of scrambler or scooter.
> He must provide a mobile phone number, sign on three times a week, surrender his passport, reside with his mother and abide by a curfew between 11pm and 6am.
Yeah I’m sure he’s going to abide those terms. Nothing wrong with this at all.
Key_Duck_6293 on
The way the courts treat killing people versus killing people with a car will never make sense to me.
I live not to far from here and remember there used to be absolutely loads of dirt bike scramblers everywhere. On Christmas, I think it was about 5 years ago the Garda turned up and confiscated a heap of them, literally the day after Christmas a bunch of them taken off lads.
Things calmed down a load after that but it’s come back big time with the larger e-scooters/e-bikes.
Although this really isn’t the right term for them, it’s the ones that are more like electric motorbikes that are the real trouble
Joelad2k17 on
Old enough to vote and drink but treat him as a child.
AbbreviationsHot3579 on
Dangerous driving lol
This is murder
Loud_Glove6833 on
10 years?
Released on bail?
What in the fuck is that?
We need a full overthrow of our shite judicial system.
I’m in shock.
sarahc888 on
So when are the riots for the safety of our women and children gonna be organised? Oh wait-
zz63245 on
I wonder how many times he had been reckless on a scrambler before this.
‘He said Mr Lee had been cooperative, gave a “full and frank” interview and showed remorse about what happened.
He accepted the vehicle “shouldn’t have been on the road” but it was “an accident.”
Mr Kenny said his client suffered from ADHD and had been given medication while in custody. He was on disability allowance and worked part time.
He had no prior convictions, had never been in a court before and there was “nothing to suggest he will abscond,” Mr Kenny said.
While the evidence was “overwhelming,” that should not be held against Mr Lee in a bail application, Mr Kenny said. He made admissions because he “felt it was the right thing to do and he didn’t want to put the family through any unnecessary grief.”
Judge Clancy said the “sudden and tragic loss of life of Grace Lynch” was of the “utmost seriousness” but Mr Lee was presumed innocent.’
Visionary_Socialist on
Kill a child. Get bail. What kind of society do you expect to end up getting when you allow this?
Sad-North7318 on
Disgraceful, he should have been denied bail, absolute scrote
Garlic-Cheese-Chips on
At least he’s an adult so there is the possibility of a severe sentence.
Barryd09 on
I said it on a different thread a few days back but a good show up the hole would stop a lot of these things from happening before they start. The scrambler/quad/escooter/ebike thing has gotten way out of hand. Now a 16 year old girl is dead. The driver is to blame but the inaction on the problem is also to blame
Impressive-Smoke1883 on
Fucking asshole. That poor girl with her whole life ahead of her.
Otherwise-Winner9643 on
More details in the Dublin Kuce article, but can’t share here.
*Solicitor for Mr Lee, Wayne Kenny, told the court that he did not want “empathy” and said his client was caught red-handed, as the Garda had outlined. The Garda agreed with the solicitor, however, that Mr Lee had no previous convictions, no history of bench warrants and had no previous matters before the courts.*
Surprised at that.
Unfair_Taro6285 on
Another day, another wrist slapped. Business as usual.
MLGprolapse on
If he gets the full 10yrs he’ll likely be out years before that right? I’d happily see him do 20+ for what he did.
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Something that really strikes me about this case is that one of the Gardai, objecting to bail (which was granted), pointed out the maximum sentence is 10 years.
If you want to kill someone in this country, running them over with a vehicle seems to carry a lot less penalty than other methods.
>[Garda McDaniel] said he was objecting to bail given the seriousness of the offence and a sentence of up to 10 years in prison if convicted.
That article was just edited thats so strange. I just read it and it said something like:
“Mr Lee’s attorney has said he has dyslexia and ADHD and…”,
I was about to point out the ridiculousness of it.
Killed a child on Sunday. Sleeping in his own bed on Tuesday.
Something is seriously wrong with our justice system.
Grand so nothing is going to change basically. That poor family’s lives have been changed forever.
> Judge Áine Clancy granted him bail with a number of conditions.
> The teenager cannot drive mechanically propelling vehicles including a car or any kind of scrambler or scooter.
> He must provide a mobile phone number, sign on three times a week, surrender his passport, reside with his mother and abide by a curfew between 11pm and 6am.
Yeah I’m sure he’s going to abide those terms. Nothing wrong with this at all.
The way the courts treat killing people versus killing people with a car will never make sense to me.
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Micheal Martin speaking today
Tuesday 27 January 2026
(remember this)
Suspended sentence…
I live not to far from here and remember there used to be absolutely loads of dirt bike scramblers everywhere. On Christmas, I think it was about 5 years ago the Garda turned up and confiscated a heap of them, literally the day after Christmas a bunch of them taken off lads.
Things calmed down a load after that but it’s come back big time with the larger e-scooters/e-bikes.
Although this really isn’t the right term for them, it’s the ones that are more like electric motorbikes that are the real trouble
Old enough to vote and drink but treat him as a child.
Dangerous driving lol
This is murder
10 years?
Released on bail?
What in the fuck is that?
We need a full overthrow of our shite judicial system.
I’m in shock.
So when are the riots for the safety of our women and children gonna be organised? Oh wait-
I wonder how many times he had been reckless on a scrambler before this.
‘He said Mr Lee had been cooperative, gave a “full and frank” interview and showed remorse about what happened.
He accepted the vehicle “shouldn’t have been on the road” but it was “an accident.”
Mr Kenny said his client suffered from ADHD and had been given medication while in custody. He was on disability allowance and worked part time.
He had no prior convictions, had never been in a court before and there was “nothing to suggest he will abscond,” Mr Kenny said.
While the evidence was “overwhelming,” that should not be held against Mr Lee in a bail application, Mr Kenny said. He made admissions because he “felt it was the right thing to do and he didn’t want to put the family through any unnecessary grief.”
Judge Clancy said the “sudden and tragic loss of life of Grace Lynch” was of the “utmost seriousness” but Mr Lee was presumed innocent.’
Kill a child. Get bail. What kind of society do you expect to end up getting when you allow this?
Disgraceful, he should have been denied bail, absolute scrote
At least he’s an adult so there is the possibility of a severe sentence.
I said it on a different thread a few days back but a good show up the hole would stop a lot of these things from happening before they start. The scrambler/quad/escooter/ebike thing has gotten way out of hand. Now a 16 year old girl is dead. The driver is to blame but the inaction on the problem is also to blame
Fucking asshole. That poor girl with her whole life ahead of her.
More details in the Dublin Kuce article, but can’t share here.
*Solicitor for Mr Lee, Wayne Kenny, told the court that he did not want “empathy” and said his client was caught red-handed, as the Garda had outlined. The Garda agreed with the solicitor, however, that Mr Lee had no previous convictions, no history of bench warrants and had no previous matters before the courts.*
Surprised at that.
Another day, another wrist slapped. Business as usual.
If he gets the full 10yrs he’ll likely be out years before that right? I’d happily see him do 20+ for what he did.