Well yeah, because they’re essentially the backup for when the wind isn’t blowing and the sun’s not shining.
That means we need to pay them for when they’re not generating while on standby, and when they’re actually generating power.
Until we find some sort of cheaper replacement for baseload generation this isn’t going to change. You can build as much renewables as you want, but you’ll always need a reliable backup that isn’t dependent on environmental conditions.
Wart_Time_L32 on
Well tories sold off the last of the gas storage and didn’t want to invest in renewables unless it benefitted them. Labour currently getting wind farming off shore expanded but it won’t magically be done for free.
uncertain_expert on
The U.K. government needs to reform how the U.K. energy market works and ditch the Marginal Cost Pricing mechanism rather than pussy-foot around the edges with little subsidies and grants.
TellMeManyStories on
I wonder if that would have anything todo with the massive taxes we put on gas producers 3 years ago preventing any investment in the north sea…?
Important_Ruin on
Yet UK is leading way in Wind Engery, vast offshore windfarms generating vast amounts of power and UK based jobs, more investment we make into wind the better it will be to move off gas as coal is nearly nonexistent now.
I wish we had a good mix of nuclear and renewables (wind, tidal, solar) so we can reduce gas usage, instead mainly use it for home heating/consumption and not generating grid power.
UK ELECTRICITY GENERATION MIX (TWh)
Comparison: Year 2000 vs 2024
UK ELECTRICITY GENERATION MIX (TWh)
Comparison: Year 2000 vs 2024
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Well yeah, because they’re essentially the backup for when the wind isn’t blowing and the sun’s not shining.
That means we need to pay them for when they’re not generating while on standby, and when they’re actually generating power.
Until we find some sort of cheaper replacement for baseload generation this isn’t going to change. You can build as much renewables as you want, but you’ll always need a reliable backup that isn’t dependent on environmental conditions.
Well tories sold off the last of the gas storage and didn’t want to invest in renewables unless it benefitted them. Labour currently getting wind farming off shore expanded but it won’t magically be done for free.
The U.K. government needs to reform how the U.K. energy market works and ditch the Marginal Cost Pricing mechanism rather than pussy-foot around the edges with little subsidies and grants.
I wonder if that would have anything todo with the massive taxes we put on gas producers 3 years ago preventing any investment in the north sea…?
Yet UK is leading way in Wind Engery, vast offshore windfarms generating vast amounts of power and UK based jobs, more investment we make into wind the better it will be to move off gas as coal is nearly nonexistent now.
I wish we had a good mix of nuclear and renewables (wind, tidal, solar) so we can reduce gas usage, instead mainly use it for home heating/consumption and not generating grid power.
UK ELECTRICITY GENERATION MIX (TWh)
Comparison: Year 2000 vs 2024
UK ELECTRICITY GENERATION MIX (TWh)
Comparison: Year 2000 vs 2024
Source | 2000 TWh | 2000 % | 2024 TWh | 2024 %
——————|———-|——–|———-|——–
Coal | ~120 | ~32% | ~2 | ~0.6%
Natural Gas | ~148 | ~39% | ~84 | ~30%
Nuclear | ~85 | ~23% | ~41 | ~14%
Wind | ~0.5 | ~0.1% | ~83 | ~29%
Solar | ~0.4 | ~0.1% | ~14 | ~5%
Biomass & bio | ~4 | ~1% | ~20 | ~7%
Hydro | ~5 | ~1–2% | ~6 | ~2%
Oil / other | ~10 | ~3% | ~1 | ~0.4%
——————|———-|——–|———-|——–
TOTAL | ~377 | 100% | ~285 | 100%
Notes:
• Coal is effectively phased out by 2024
• Wind + solar grew from ~1 TWh to ~97 TWh
• Total UK generation fell due to efficiency + imports
SOURCES:
– UK Government: DUKES (Digest of UK Energy Statistics)
https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/digest-of-uk-energy-statistics-dukes
– UK Energy in Brief 2024 / 2025 (DESNZ)
– National Grid ESO historical generation data
– RenewableUK Energy Trends 2024
Yet gas is bad and they want us to think that gas isn’t linked to electricity use/production.