Yeah, we all know it. That ain’t gonna change the decade(s) behind we are, and the associated price to resolve the issue. Then again, waiting longer makes it worse *if* the US ever pulls the plug. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t, so might as well bite the bullet.
One_Alternative_6965 on
Ditch everything from Uncle Sam and co. Un trustworthy partner.
All they want is Bully and be loud.
We can do better 🤷♂️
Last_VCR on
Every cults first task is to isolate you from your friends
R3v3r4nD on
Yeah but move onto what?
Free-Internet1981 on
Must, should, could, would, all are PR bs keywords that politicians use to gain political points when they don’t have any plans of action behind their words
butwhywedothis on
I know it will not happen immediately but EU must start the transition. Which means
– Accelerating development of data centers located in EU
– Providing subsidies to EU software companies that can/will develop alternatives
– Incentivize EU consumers to make the switch
Lapkonium on
Crazy how EU is behind the curve on that, but also understandable
rough0perator on
What EU-native?
Noone in EU has the infrastructure, services and scale of Google, Amazon and Microsoft
Technical-Green-9983 on
Someone turned off my bitcoin and my fridge has turned off
RobotsAreSlaves on
Would be nice if authors can name EU native competitors for aws and azure. This is like call modern car owners to swap it to horses, good luck with that.
xaranetic on
Get a linux box. Install SMTP and FTP, and you’ve got your very own cloud.
Only partially joking… Sometimes good enough is best
DeliriousHippie on
What’s insane to me is that while we talk about ditching US products those companies have been really quiet. Google or Microsoft haven’t stepped in and said “Be at ease, we aren’t going to do what US government would possibly demand.”. Of course almost nobody would believe them but still. Amazon has launched European Sovereign Cloud where they try to distance themself from US government. Are Google and Microsoft really ready to lose business elsewhere than US? If I would be CEO of Microsoft I’d be constantly trying to tell customers that they can trust Microsoft. Are they so afraid of Trump?
asria on
How that will be possible with Uncle Sam’s based Hardware?
Oh great another one of these articles. Everyone knows this, now who’s going to invest 100’s of billions if not trillions on development, scaling, education, and migration initiatives?
zante2033 on
Trump is going to lose big tech a fuck ton of money.
orthoxerox on
They need to at least agree on a timeline and make it a law, something like:
– lower the taxes for companies with EU beneficiaries that are running data centers and providing cloud services until the end of 2035
– offer cheaper loans for building new DCs
– by 2030 all governments must switch to EU cloud services
– also starting from 2030, no EU or national government grants to companies that use non-EU cloud services
– by 2035 all companies of strategic importance must switch to EU cloud services
MercatorLondon on
Well, this is actually important.
We need to have infrastructure (banking, communications, etc..) that may still work when there is a damage done to undersea cables.
This is not against USA or any other country. We can ask USA to place their servers in Europe (following EU rules) if they want to.
seryoferben on
I tried to convince people in my company to do so, but the operational cost is really high and our priorities are elsewhere.
I hope they let me do at least some PoCs with EU-based CSPs in the near future.
PureCaramel5800 on
Critical government and military IT systems should be mandated to move to European-based cloud providers or run on-premises. This transition is challenging, but it is the only viable long-term option.
kobemustard on
I’m surprised the article didn’t go into the issues of USA sanctioning individuals, like the ICC judges and how they couldn’t access any USA linked digital services including VISA or banking. That isn’t even a speculative future event but happened several times recently.
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Yeah, we all know it. That ain’t gonna change the decade(s) behind we are, and the associated price to resolve the issue. Then again, waiting longer makes it worse *if* the US ever pulls the plug. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t, so might as well bite the bullet.
Ditch everything from Uncle Sam and co. Un trustworthy partner.
All they want is Bully and be loud.
We can do better 🤷♂️
Every cults first task is to isolate you from your friends
Yeah but move onto what?
Must, should, could, would, all are PR bs keywords that politicians use to gain political points when they don’t have any plans of action behind their words
I know it will not happen immediately but EU must start the transition. Which means
– Accelerating development of data centers located in EU
– Providing subsidies to EU software companies that can/will develop alternatives
– Incentivize EU consumers to make the switch
Crazy how EU is behind the curve on that, but also understandable
What EU-native?
Noone in EU has the infrastructure, services and scale of Google, Amazon and Microsoft
Someone turned off my bitcoin and my fridge has turned off
Would be nice if authors can name EU native competitors for aws and azure. This is like call modern car owners to swap it to horses, good luck with that.
Get a linux box. Install SMTP and FTP, and you’ve got your very own cloud.
Only partially joking… Sometimes good enough is best
What’s insane to me is that while we talk about ditching US products those companies have been really quiet. Google or Microsoft haven’t stepped in and said “Be at ease, we aren’t going to do what US government would possibly demand.”. Of course almost nobody would believe them but still. Amazon has launched European Sovereign Cloud where they try to distance themself from US government. Are Google and Microsoft really ready to lose business elsewhere than US? If I would be CEO of Microsoft I’d be constantly trying to tell customers that they can trust Microsoft. Are they so afraid of Trump?
How that will be possible with Uncle Sam’s based Hardware?
Woulda coulda shoulda
List of current alternatives: [https://european-alternatives.eu/category/cloud-computing-platforms](https://european-alternatives.eu/category/cloud-computing-platforms)
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Oh great another one of these articles. Everyone knows this, now who’s going to invest 100’s of billions if not trillions on development, scaling, education, and migration initiatives?
Trump is going to lose big tech a fuck ton of money.
They need to at least agree on a timeline and make it a law, something like:
– lower the taxes for companies with EU beneficiaries that are running data centers and providing cloud services until the end of 2035
– offer cheaper loans for building new DCs
– by 2030 all governments must switch to EU cloud services
– also starting from 2030, no EU or national government grants to companies that use non-EU cloud services
– by 2035 all companies of strategic importance must switch to EU cloud services
Well, this is actually important.
We need to have infrastructure (banking, communications, etc..) that may still work when there is a damage done to undersea cables.
This is not against USA or any other country. We can ask USA to place their servers in Europe (following EU rules) if they want to.
I tried to convince people in my company to do so, but the operational cost is really high and our priorities are elsewhere.
I hope they let me do at least some PoCs with EU-based CSPs in the near future.
Critical government and military IT systems should be mandated to move to European-based cloud providers or run on-premises. This transition is challenging, but it is the only viable long-term option.
I’m surprised the article didn’t go into the issues of USA sanctioning individuals, like the ICC judges and how they couldn’t access any USA linked digital services including VISA or banking. That isn’t even a speculative future event but happened several times recently.