Perché è stata necessaria la morte di Grace per accelerare tutto ciò? Perché doveva morire? Perché non potevano farlo prima che questa povera famiglia dovesse affrontare una vita di dolore. Sono così incazzato con tutte queste stronzate.
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di wrestlingnutter
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Because it’s Ireland.
I’m confused, weren’t they already banned because they’re not road legal?! No lights or licence plate on them. Enforcement is just the issue as ever.
Most laws and regulations are written in blood. It’s not the first and it won’t be the last.
This was bound to happen, it was a tragedy just waiting to happen. Ever since that poor guy some years ago who was left [brain damaged](https://www.msn.com/en-ie/sports/general/man-who-suffered-catastrophic-injuries-when-scrambler-bike-landed-on-him-settles-action-for-5-2m/ar-AA1OwqUB) by some moron landing on his head with his scrambler bike.
We brought in new legislation on these no length ago, but as usual, it didn’t go far enough. Just like the recent legislation on vapes, it was no sooner law than it was realised that more changes were needed.
You don’t know what you’re talking about
Bring in the law all you want, they still won’t enforce it.
This is just for optics and it’s shameful.
Agree. Why the emotive naming when there’s already so much grief caused? Who knows how the family feel about it, I can’t imagine, just hopefully they don’t consider it disrespectful.
Law to make criminal motorbike activity a crime.
Plans for enabling the guards to enforce it? None.
Plans for jailing / punishing those who break the law? None.
If the existing laws in place were enforced, this poor girl may not have been killed. Are we to believe that any new laws will be enforced also. Its only a matter if time until another person is killed by a scrambler.
I don’t understand what banning them does? Surely the gardai need to be able to ram them off the road with full protection should one of the little angels get hurt. And the parents should have to pay for any damages to cars etc. See how long they’ll be on the roads then.
Loads of laws against scramblers on public roads.
Licence, tax, insurance, helmet, lights, numberplates before dangerous driving etc. even come into play.
The problem is 100% garda resourcing. Gardai aren’t being pursuit trained, aren’t allowed chase little scumbags incase they or a third party are hurt.
This law will change nothing whatsoever, except making criminals out of genuine guys who go up the mountains to do their own thing out of harms way will be nabbed.
They are already illegal to use on public roads without tax, insurance etc.
There’s no enforcement now, and if there won’t be after this law comes in, it’s completely pointless.
Even if enforcement did occur, the majority of those involved are under 18 and will not be prosecuted. Waste of time.
That’s how Ireland works….we have only built roads and bypasses once a unacceptable number of people have died on the original road first.
I remember 10 years ago there was two young lads killed at Christmas time in Separate accidents 15 and 16, one died Christmas morning after receiving it as a present, then was the time to regulate
Can we just change the law to allow garda to stop them in cases of dangerous and illegal driving. If the stop turns out to be fatal then that’s not the gardas issue, public safety should take priority.
They can be illegal to even own, hell make them as illegal as murder, but the courts will still let you off with a half decent sob story
They should make it illegal to drive through pedestrian crossings at double the speed limit
It took someone to die for politicians to do this and do it this quick. Something that should have been done ages ago.
What a bunch of cunts.
Wasn’t some poor lad brain damaged a good few years ago after a scrambler literally landed on him in a public park? They should have been banned back then. Typical of this mis-managed kip of a country.
I’m not sure if it’s still done, but for a while the London police were allowed to knock people off mopeds with their cars:
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/met-police-allowed-to-knock-moped-thieves-off-bikes-at-high-speed/37559059.html
If there is no other way to stop people then in the long run doing this would save lives. I think we just assume we couldn’t do it but it would be politically popular and I think it is ethically sound. In the long run fewer people would be hurt.
Does anyone think this will make a difference? I’m very sceptical
I’m sorry but I don’t believe in this sort of politics in where because some sort of tragedy happens that means we make it illegal. The government isn’t here to babysit us.
I’d really prefer they didn’t name this law after that gorgeous girl unless it’s going to be fully enforced which I seriously doubt. It’ll make a mockery of her memory so if I was Grace’s parents I’d be reluctant to put her name to this, it’s been brought in very quick too
Would this also mean open public spaces where people walk/run?
And that they weren’t probably dear with after the poor Lithuanian fella nearly a decade ago
>Ilabek Avetian had just moved to Ireland from Lithuania to begin a new life when the scrambler came over a hill and landed on his head – while he was sunbathing in Darndale Park, Coolock, on June 9, 2018.
https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/my-husband-crushed-scrambler-sunbathing-33337304
Believe this is a clarification of existing law, extending where they are illegal, making it more straightforward for Gardai to seize them and adding that they will be destroyed instead of just held.
Not sure if theres changes to how Gardai can pursue them as they have to consider endangering the public in a chase.
And like magic, scramblers were never used in public places again.
We should bring in a law to build 60,000 houses a year. This approach seems like a good solution to fixing problems.
I used to see the lad that did this every single day doing wheelies on the Finglas dual carriageway with his mates. Nothing was ever done. They showboated and almost hit pedestrians constantly and it is now only a problem to the guards because it’s resulted in someone’s death.
Scramblers are already illegal, this is an enforcement issue.