Incidente di odio razzista alla REWE di Francoforte: la polizia ha arrestato l’autore del reato

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Unfortunately I’m pretty sure they would not have arrested him if he didn’t do the Heil Hitler salute, which is illegal in Germany.

Sorry you went through that OP. Do you mind sharing which Rewe was this in?

Well, he was arrested on the spot because he was stupid enough to do the Hitler salute right in front of the police. When it comes to offensive remarks, they may be illegal (at least “insulting language”) but when it boils down to one person’s word against another’s, it’s not likely that a prosecution would result in a conviction. There is the matter that your right not to be subjected to grossly offensive and gratuitous insults has to be balanced against the constitutional right to free expression of opinion, so the principle of “innocent until proven guilty” is going to weigh heavily in the accused’s favour.

However, since he Heil Hitlered the police, they are probably going to take your statements into account. What happens next is impossible to judge: the public prosecutor will need to make a decision about whether a prosecution is worth it. If, for example, this guy has already generated a lot of paperwork for the police by repeatedly being reported for insulting language, or there is evidence he is a bona-fide card-carrying Neo-Nazi, I think they’ll do their best to persuade the prosecutor to throw the book at him.

What this means is that while saying something like “you are ruining the gene pool” might actually be protected speech under Art 5 GG, the fact that he said it might be evidence to support the case that his use of the Hitler salute was a deliberate violation of § 86a StGB, which is the use of a symbol of a banned organisation for the purposes of disseminating unconstitutional or terrorist propaganda.

He was arrested bc he made the Nazi salute though

You are lucky that a police officer was near by. Others get beaten to death on a train in broad daylight and nothing happens. [source](https://rp-online.de/nrw/panorama/toedliche-attacke-auf-fahrkartenkontrolleur-viele-angriffe-auch-in-nrw_aid-143408199)

Racist attacks or comments happen all the time. Last winter a woman spit on my suit in the tram while I was coming back from the Hbf! The whole train just watched it and went back to their phones. You should just go to the Berlin reddit or checkout the comments section on any DW reporting on 3rd world countries, what Germans think loudly about people of color. Having said that, ofcourse there are so many educated, kind and liberal german in West Germany. These perpetrators are usually the lowest of the land, living off of the taxes paid by these ‘immigrants’.

While I was hanging out with my flatmate(blond German woman) on a nice afternoon, a guy who passed by us said something and I didn’t understand what he said. Later my flatmate told me that he called her a ‘Vaterlandverräterin‘ meaning ‘traitor to the fatherland’ just because that she was hanging out with me or he thought that she was my girlfriend. I felt sad for my flatmate and also felt angry that somebody just hates me because I am a brown man. Later me and my flatmate went to rewe, got beers and had a good time talking. Honestly I met some of the best people in Germany and I am still close friends with my buddies even though I left the country. I never give a f**k about racists.

I am sorry this happened to you but i am happy for the outcome. I hope this weirdo didn’t ruin too much of your day and you can sleep good at night again!

I’m sorry for the nasty incident and applaud that you called the authorities as many would just let it slip, which won’t help the situation.

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very good that you reported it!

The offense would be Beleidigung §185StGB, or if the person who got lies told about isn‘t in the room nachrede§186StGB both antragsdelikt(police will only act if victim reports), inthis case he sealed his fate with the hitler salute verwendung von kennzeichen verfassungsfeindlicher organisationen §86aStGB which is offizialdelikt(police got to act without reports from a victim)

Thinking of moving back after reading stuff like this.

To all the people saying the offender would’ve just “gone home free” if it weren’t for the salute miss a very important thing.

In germany, you don’t go to jail because you commited a crime.
You go to jail if the investigators of the state prosecution (so most likely the police officers themselves) deem it too risky for you to escape justice if they let you leave.

This can be due to a lot of reasons, like:
– He is homeless and doesn’t have any adress where he could be summoned from.
– He is a foreign cititzen (or has double cititzenship), only lives in a hotel (or at a friend) for a few days and has the means of escaping (like money for a train ticket or connection to the outside like family).
– He shows direct signs of or admits to wanting to escape justice.
– He poses a grave danger towards society or himself. (Like being too drunk or drugged to realize what he’s doing is real and probably won’t stop doing it.)
– The severity of the crime is large enough, that a judge or a state prosecutor deems it nessecary to see that person the same day or the following day and want’s to be 100 % sure of that happening. (But this mostly ever happens with really severe crimes with a minimum sentence of one year for the offense.)

So in your case, the salute might not have been what made the difference in the outcome, although it probably did increase the use of force by the officers.
And since in germany, someone can only ever convicted for one offense in the same crime, there is a chance that the prosecutor might deem the racist insult and the salute as a crime out of a single motivation and doesn’t prosecute both.
If you’re lucky, both will be prosecuted since the salute wasn’t directed at you and there were two different victims (you and the state, not the police officers, but the state; the salute doesn’t have to be directed at anyone to be prosecutable, an insult does and has to be sued by the victim).
If you didn’t tell the police officers that you want to sue him for the insult, then he won’t be charged for it.

This procedure has nothing to do with a german unwillingness to pursue racist incidents (racist intebt as a motive for a crime actually increases it’s severity), but is standard procedure for ANY crime.

Sorry you and your gf endured that. Let’s hope the idiot gets some gaol time

This is a ragebait. An Indian will never shitpost with this kind of language Especially in a Foreign sub.

I’m the child of immigrants, born and raised here. If I start writing about what we all experienced, i can write a book as thick as the Bible. A few of my favorites:

– dad constantly got pulled over by the same cop for multiple days in a row. My dad eventually confronted him by saying, “Why are you pulling me over every morning? Don’t you see I’m trying to get to work? Or is there something you aren’t telling me?” The police officer felt embarrassed in front of the newbie and let my dad go

– When i was 9 or 10 years old, we decided to light fireworks outside, far from any homes. One of the rockets went the wrong way and exploded far closer to homes than we anticipated. Before we could relocate, an older man came over and said, “If you can’t do this, then go home and stop it!”. There were a handful of other families close by, some of whom weren’t as careful as we were. Still, no screaming at them.

– Till this day, we CONSTANTLY get pulled out for a “random search” or, more often, for Explosives at the airport. We started to include extra time in case of one – the only european airport to not do this were athens and bergen in Norway.

– The typical “ohh, your german is so good! How long have you been living here?” My family has been here for nearly 30 years, and I was born here.

Germany is one of the most beautiful country I have ever been in – landscape and people. There isn’t a single country where I would’ve rather been born. Still, I feel like many people, especially ethnic germans, don’t seem to realize how often you face racism.

Afd voter on the loose.