I gotta flag the wording here, cos how does one read this?
> He was offered the chance to instantly be removed to Ireland but chose to stay in ICE custody, in fact he took affirmative steps to remain in detention.
What on earth constitutes taking “affirmative steps to remain in detention” even mean here? It reads incredibly Orwellian, given the US admin’s nosedive into malevolence-as-policy; the old “he was resisting arrest” excuse.
Suppose it could just mean Culleton pursued a legal challenge in lieu of deportation, but if he’s a clearcut case for deportation – why not just deport him then if the admin. could do so “instantly”?
smashedspuds on
I feel for him and his family but there seems to be quite a few gaps in this story that aren’t being filled
AtraVenator on
I mean back to Ireland? I don’t blame him.
insomnium2020 on
The concentration camp where you can leave at any stage by just going home.
ConfusedCelt on
I couldn’t give a feck. Just because we don’t bother deporting it doesn’t mean we can expect other nations to do the same. He had his shot and he blew it he could have become a citizen he refused to. Pathetic argument to expect special treatment
rockafellerskank95 on
He left Ireland to avoid a drug dealing charge
mslowey on
I am torn on this one. On one hand he had a green card at the time of his capture and was engaging in the process to legalise his status.
But on the other hand he was illegal for 16 years and had signed a waiver that stated he could be deported regardless of green card status. On that basis the judge had nowhere to go and could not even grant him bail.
GodOfBoy8 on
Has a valid work permit. Is in the works of im guessing citizenship. Married to a us citizen. Is working and paying taxes. This dangercriminal needs removed 🙄
AluminiumCrackers on
Lot of people finding reasons to justify inhumane treatment of prisoners.
RomfordWellington on
So conflicted on this.
On the one hand – if someone is there 17 years. Built their whole adult life there. Always worked, always paid taxes, has a family and a home and has never come to any negative attention, then that person is part of the firmament of that society and should have their immigration status regularised with right to remain.
On the other hand – don’t bloody overstay your visa in the first place. Don’t choose to stay in detention when you’re offered a way home to a country that is abundantly safer in every way, with citizenship that is worth more because not only does it grant you the right to live and work here – it grants you the right to live and work in the EU and in Britain. Irish citizenship is like the gold standard in the modern world and it’s really weird, and actually quite sad, to see someone choose detention over that just to stay in what we can all see now is quite a broken country.
I understand his desire to stay, especially to keep his family united, but at what point do you realise that that the USA he went to 15-20 years is changed, and they just don’t want him there anymore, no matter what he does?
BlubberyGiraffe on
I am sure he didn’t chose to be living in the conditions that he has been the last five months. They fucked him about with his bail, visitation and basic facilities. Even if he didn’t follow the correct process (which I agree, he should face whatever consequences come from that directly), he should not have been subjected to the treatment he has received. That goes for all individuals, who I am sure see simply in there due to the colour of their skin, not just this bloke.
flushbunking on
even if one feels the overstay was legally shaky, the detention of this man, and others, is not justifiable. even tho it may be legal to do so, it is not moral. and most of all, since yanks are obsessed with money, it is not economical.
brexdab on
Hi, yank /plastic paddy here.
Overstaying your visa is not an excuse to be put in a concentration camp. He just happens to be caught in the crossfire of a concentration camp system who’s purpose is to attack black and brown Americans.
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I gotta flag the wording here, cos how does one read this?
> He was offered the chance to instantly be removed to Ireland but chose to stay in ICE custody, in fact he took affirmative steps to remain in detention.
What on earth constitutes taking “affirmative steps to remain in detention” even mean here? It reads incredibly Orwellian, given the US admin’s nosedive into malevolence-as-policy; the old “he was resisting arrest” excuse.
Suppose it could just mean Culleton pursued a legal challenge in lieu of deportation, but if he’s a clearcut case for deportation – why not just deport him then if the admin. could do so “instantly”?
I feel for him and his family but there seems to be quite a few gaps in this story that aren’t being filled
I mean back to Ireland? I don’t blame him.
The concentration camp where you can leave at any stage by just going home.
I couldn’t give a feck. Just because we don’t bother deporting it doesn’t mean we can expect other nations to do the same. He had his shot and he blew it he could have become a citizen he refused to. Pathetic argument to expect special treatment
He left Ireland to avoid a drug dealing charge
I am torn on this one. On one hand he had a green card at the time of his capture and was engaging in the process to legalise his status.
But on the other hand he was illegal for 16 years and had signed a waiver that stated he could be deported regardless of green card status. On that basis the judge had nowhere to go and could not even grant him bail.
Has a valid work permit. Is in the works of im guessing citizenship. Married to a us citizen. Is working and paying taxes. This dangercriminal needs removed 🙄
Lot of people finding reasons to justify inhumane treatment of prisoners.
So conflicted on this.
On the one hand – if someone is there 17 years. Built their whole adult life there. Always worked, always paid taxes, has a family and a home and has never come to any negative attention, then that person is part of the firmament of that society and should have their immigration status regularised with right to remain.
On the other hand – don’t bloody overstay your visa in the first place. Don’t choose to stay in detention when you’re offered a way home to a country that is abundantly safer in every way, with citizenship that is worth more because not only does it grant you the right to live and work here – it grants you the right to live and work in the EU and in Britain. Irish citizenship is like the gold standard in the modern world and it’s really weird, and actually quite sad, to see someone choose detention over that just to stay in what we can all see now is quite a broken country.
I understand his desire to stay, especially to keep his family united, but at what point do you realise that that the USA he went to 15-20 years is changed, and they just don’t want him there anymore, no matter what he does?
I am sure he didn’t chose to be living in the conditions that he has been the last five months. They fucked him about with his bail, visitation and basic facilities. Even if he didn’t follow the correct process (which I agree, he should face whatever consequences come from that directly), he should not have been subjected to the treatment he has received. That goes for all individuals, who I am sure see simply in there due to the colour of their skin, not just this bloke.
even if one feels the overstay was legally shaky, the detention of this man, and others, is not justifiable. even tho it may be legal to do so, it is not moral. and most of all, since yanks are obsessed with money, it is not economical.
Hi, yank /plastic paddy here.
Overstaying your visa is not an excuse to be put in a concentration camp. He just happens to be caught in the crossfire of a concentration camp system who’s purpose is to attack black and brown Americans.