Ciao a tutti,
Di recente ho acquistato una luce di emergenza e un giocattolo con una sirena da Smyths Toys a Karlsruhe. La confezione mostra specificamente che è pensato per essere montato sul manubrio di una bicicletta, quindi l’abbiamo attaccato alla bici di mio figlio.
Tuttavia, la sirena è molto rumorosa e so che la Germania ha regole severe sugli accessori per biciclette e sul rumore in pubblico. Le mie domande sono:
È effettivamente legale utilizzarlo su una bicicletta per bambini negli spazi pubblici (come marciapiedi o parchi) in Germania?
Il fatto che sia venduto in un grande negozio di giocattoli qui significa che può essere utilizzato all’aperto o è strettamente destinato alla proprietà privata?
Sulla scatola non c’erano informazioni legali o avvertenze specifiche, solo la sua foto su una bicicletta. Qualsiasi consiglio o esperienza in merito sarebbe molto apprezzata! Grazie, buona fortuna!
https://i.redd.it/yrjkb66dgwkg1.jpeg
di princelyroyan
11 commenti
r/legaladvicegerman
You’re fine. It’s a toy.
My kids actually had the same one. It’s so very awful, but they enjoyed it.
No, you’re not allowed to do that. The STVO clearly stated that Blue flashing lights are only to be mounted on fire / police vehicle.
You also cannot mount a siren that sounds like police / ambulance / firefighters, etc. That’d be “Amtsanmahsung”. If anyone is going to fine you for that is a different question. Fact is that it’s technically not legal.
Nope. It is not.
A bell is required, a siren is prohibited.
All lights that meet the rules have a little wiggely wave symbol followed by the letter K and then a number.
Lights have to be white in the front and red in the back.
Flashing blue lights are definitely not allowed.
Im no lawyer but i would say its not legal at least in public.
1. You only can install a bell on your bike
2. Sirens and blue light is only for police etc.
https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/stvzo_2012/__64a.html#:~:text=Fahrr%C3%A4der%20und%20Schlitten%20m%C3%BCssen%20mit,sind%20auch%20Radlaufglocken%20nicht%20zul%C3%A4ssig.
https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/stvo_2013/__38.html
The E-Scooter is not legal top.
No, it’s not allowed.
“Straßenverkehrs-Zulassungs-Ordnung (StVZO)
§ 64a
Einrichtungen für Schallzeichen
Fahrräder und Schlitten müssen mit mindestens einer helltönenden Glocke ausgerüstet sein; ausgenommen sind Handschlitten. Andere Einrichtungen für Schallzeichen dürfen an diesen Fahrzeugen nicht angebracht sein. An Fahrrädern sind auch Radlaufglocken nicht zulässig.”
https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/stvzo_2012/__64a.html
Thanks everyone for your reply. I am not sure why they sell it on Smyth Toys when it is not legal. The box also says to mount it on a bike. I am so confused.
>private property?
As we are on this matter: Private property in Germany means a “umfriedeter Bereich”, which requires at least a fence preventing people from randomly walking into it.
Without that, all regular street laws also apply (for example, on your driveway connected to the road or (the classic) on supermarket parking lots).
Despite what everyone else say I would say it is legal.
At least for a kids bike.
You have both in StVZO and StVO paragraphs that say that kid bikes are not “vehicles” in regard of those laws
§ 16 StVZO
>(2) Schiebe- und Greifreifenrollstühle, Rodelschlitten, Kinderwagen, Roller, **Ki**nderfahrräder und ähnliche nicht motorbetriebene oder mit einem Hilfsantrieb ausgerüstete ähnliche Fortbewegungsmittel mit einer bauartbedingten Höchstgeschwindigkeit von nicht mehr als 6 km/h **sind nicht Fahrzeuge im Sinne dieser Verordnung.**
§ 24 StVO
>(1) Schiebe- und Greifreifenrollstühle, Rodelschlitten, Kinderwagen, Roller, **Kinderfahrräder**, Inline-Skates, Rollschuhe und ähnliche nicht motorbetriebene Fortbewegungsmittel **sind nicht Fahrzeuge im Sinne der Verordnung.** Für den Verkehr mit diesen Fortbewegungsmitteln gelten die Vorschriften für den Fußgängerverkehr entsprechend.
So basically no rules regarding vehicles are applied to kids bike
Disclaimer: IANAL Do not rely on my answer.
Germany is such petty, broken country