Ciao a tutti. Su Reddit e altre piattaforme di social media, alcuni georgiani hanno accusato gli armeni di furto culturale, e sono curioso di sapere quanto sia diffusa questa idea. Coloro che accusano gli armeni di furto culturale sono solitamente azeri. Ad esempio, il dibattito Dolma/Tolma, il dibattito su chi possiede certe canzoni, accusando gli altri di non avere un patrimonio storico. È possibile trovarli con alcune ricerche, ma non sono riuscito a capire che tipo di problemi esistono tra georgiani e armeni. Voglio dire, di quale cibo stai discutendo o dell’origine di quali canzoni? L’unica cosa che ho trovato è la questione della proprietà della chiesa tra armeni e georgiani. Secondo quello che ho letto, gli armeni affermano che le chiese in Georgia appartengono a loro, ma i georgiani dicono che sono chiese georgiane. Questo è tutto quello che ho trovato. Ma alcuni georgiani sostengono che gli armeni vogliono rubare tutto ciò che possiedono, tutto! Ma come ho detto, non sono riuscito a trovare abbastanza informazioni. Pensi che il furto culturale sia diffuso? Penso che questi georgiani stiano reagendo in modo eccessivo, altrimenti avrei trovato più informazioni al riguardo. Cosa ne pensi?
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di Difficult-Routine929
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This is mostly on personal interaction level. Nothing really bad about this, mostly jokes.
From my personal view, I have never met this kinds in interactions, but I remember there was a video on YouTube from some huge documentary channel, and the topic was that oldest winery was found in Georgia. 90% of comments were Armenians, calling that Armenians made wine far before.
That’s it, no one with actual mind really cares about this.
The idea of “Cultural Theft” is absolutely insane when talking about two tiny nations that have had their borders move back and forth between them for over 2000 years.
Things naturally move around, get shared, and traded, trying to say something is 100% Georgian is crazy, because Georgia has never been a country with closed borders. People talk, travel, share ideas, it’s completely normal. We should be celebrating similarities not making enemies over them!
I’ve heard claims of “we did it first” from both sides tbh, and usually when you go down the rabbit hole it is very blurry to be able to assess who did what first. And it is rather silly imo, the borders between georgia and armenia have constantly been moving, both countries share many cultural aspects. Also georgia was part of the silk road and many traditions of georgians comes from these trades and cultural exchanges. I don’t want to take specific examples because I know that this is going to bring back that childish debate. Nowadays the trends of nationalistic ideologies have completely blindsided some people into thinking that their ancestral culture is an island, which is completely absurd and denies everything we know about social sciences.
While in Georgia I have heard wildest stories which made me laugh.
The story of Kartulos. In Tbilisi I rented an apartment from this middle age woman, after telling her that I was Armenian, she changed a bit. Next morning she came rushing to me with the photo of Mesrop Mashtots and Koryun ( his student) screaming “see you made Kartulos, kneel down in front of your stupid face Mashtots, you are so hateful, what you want from us”. I have never heard and still am not sure who is Kartulos so I asked “who is Karlos?” She got pissed and shouted something in Georgian and went inside.
Later I was able to explain to her who was who but the situation was wild
Rustaveli was Armenian: Again heard from multiple Georgians that Armenians claim Rustaveli was Armenian. In reality very handful Armenians have ever heard of Rustaveli, I personally never heard of this in Armenia. In contrast to this story Georgians forcefully push the narrative the Saakashvili is Armenian. 🤦♂️
There areany more stories that happened to me personally in Georgia. I will share more whenever I remember them