
Ciao ragazzi
Qualcuno di voi ricarica la tesla con il caricabatteria mobile a casa con l’adattatore blu da 16 A?
Vivo in Belgio e mi chiedo se questo tipo di caricabatterie sia un’alternativa migliore all’installazione di un caricabatterie da muro più grande e costoso.
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I have one of these mobile chargers. I ran a 5g4 (three phase 4mm2 cable) to a pole with a waterproof CEE 16A socket. The charger has been fixed to that pole for over a year now, no issues. Just make sure that the charger you buy is really waterproof if it’s somewhere outside.
2.5mm2 is required for sockets by law but if it’s a really long cable, you might want to use 4mm2 instead.
It depends. Officially, if the socket will be (primarily) used for charging a car, it must comply with the same rules that make an EVSE install expensive (B-type diff etc). If you don’t care (and are willing to risk insurance not paying in case of fire or death), you can of course just do whatever you like. An EVSE is just a fancy extension cord that tells the car the maximum current after all. The actual charger hardware is in the car. You get find aliexpress specials that convert the 4x16A CEE plug into a Type 2 connector for 100€, but I wouldn’t like to rely on it as my main equipment, especially if it’s not behind a good quality EV/Type B differential.
(I use the red/3 phase plug here, but same rules apply for any socket, the blue ones but technically even normal sockets!)
Also: Most “mobile” EVSE boxes do not allow communication with P1 port to set load balancing or charging on solar only, which I think is something you should always opt for, or you will end up paying the capacity tarrif for 11kW when you really don’t need it, and/or overload your main breaker if you have the car plugged in and start cooking etc. Also also: Don’t underestimate the advantages of dynamic rates. It can make EV driving _much_ cheaper.
While we have a wall charger at home, we did use this type of charger on an overnight stay at an Airbnb in Germany. Our hosts used it to charge their electric cars as well, worked perfectly fine. I guess the downside is less control compared to a smart charger. For example we often set our charger to only charge using solar power, which this thing won’t be able to do.
I use this, and have used something similar in another form.
Advantage:
-Less/(no) need for official inspection, as it requires just a socket. In theory yes every change requires a re-inspection but generally not for a socket.
-An electrician can place a red/blue socket for about 150-200 euro (depending on how far the cable run is, cable will be the most expensive part). It’s really only breaker + wire + socket.
-No need for the expensive B-type Residual current breakers, as these chargers have that security built in.
-Charger can be cheaper
-Charger is removable so can take it with you if you move places.
Downsides:
-can be less safe if not done right (due to less strict inspection reqts).
-“In theory” CEE sockets are not allowed in residential buildings, but my (strict) inspector never made a problem out of it. It’s a bit of a gray zone.
-Less clean, the thing lies around on the floor, the socket is kind of ugly (I bought a special, expensive black, minimal one for outside). Not great if you want your driveway or so to look spotless.
Watch out:
There are two types of CEE plugs for each color, 16A and 32A. Blue is single phase, red is 3 phase. 16A 1phase blue is not rated for higher current than a regular plug in theory, so doesn’t offer much advantage (though in practice you will be able to get closer to the real 16A then a normal socket).
Red, 3-phase can be useful, but watch out with 3 phase: the minimal charge current of any EV charger is 6A, 6A * 3 = 18A, 18A * 230 = 4140W! 4KW minimum for just an EV is pretty high, no easy way to throttle lower unless if it supports switching to one phase (afaik a rare feature), be prepared for a high Capacity tariff bill!
Look at NRGkick btw, I dont know which type that pic of yours is, but NRGkick has a nice system where the plug is exchangeable, much smarter, you can use regular socket, blue and red in 32 and 16A forms. NRGKick also supports solar soaking, maybe load balancing too.
Get a go-e Gemini flex. So this way you don’t need a certificate of installation