Decine di parlamentari sollecitano il Partito dei Verdi ad abbandonare ufficialmente e immediatamente la politica sul parto “normale”.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/green-party-polanski-childbirth-normal-natural-b2936656.html?utm_source=reddit.com
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> Zack Polanski is facing pressure from dozens of MPs to officially ditch the Green Party’s maternity policy seeking to reduce birth interventions “with immediate effect”.
>The Green Party apologised “unreservedly” in 2024 for the upset caused by its health policy, which pledged to reduce the rate of caesarean sections, describing them as “expensive and, when not medically required, risky”.
Problem with this is that Green MPs don’t set Green Party policy and under the current party structure couldn’t make the decision to ditch it. It would need to go through conference – so October and be voted on by attendees. Given how conference usually goes, no saying it’ll even get tabled.
That being said I am fairly sure there is a policy working group working on the health policy so hopefully they have addressed this section as I believe that is due to come to Spring conference.
The greens believe Birth should be a non-medical event?
They really are crazy.
To be honest the party just needs a clear out of all the woo woo stuff thats clearly built up over the years as a pressure group. Reorient themselves towards more liberal social policy (scrapping surveillance state crap) and energy independence that can go in conjunction with lowering emissions and throw the hippy stuff in the bin.
There is currently an investigation into maternity deaths in my region literally because women’s distress was being ignored and there was a “normal” childbirth policy.
What a nothing story
A policy that isn’t officially supported, isn’t on the website and that the leader of the party has said will be reviewed with professionals
But labour MPs demand it’s dropped
How about they get their own house in order first
Dozens of MPs telling a different party who aren’t in government to change their policy.
Shouldn’t be having bloody kids, in the first place.
you know the right people are panicking with the amount of misinformation being released about the greens lol
The natural/home birth sisterhood is strong amongst the hippie woo communities. There’s lots of great solidarity and advice, and even doolahs.
But they never talk about the home birth attempts that didn’t go smoothly. Except to blame the NHS ambulance service for not attending within 4 minutes of them changing their mind.
That said, having either an NHS target or any political party policy, about the type of birth experience mothers should have, if it’s not simply about better support and more funding, it’s creepy and invasive.
The amount of pressure that is put on women around pregnancy and childbirth is unbelievable. They’re made to feel like failures if they can’t breastfeed or (apparently according to the Greens) having an “abnormal” birth.
When they say “change the culture” they are parroting the old trope that caesareans are the lazy way to give birth. For those green supporters claiming this is a nothing story, why did they feel the need to unreservedly apologise for this policy?
This has not been policy since 2024. It did not appear in the last manifesto and is not in the list of conference approved policies.
This is quite a pathetic attempt to smear the Greens.
When I was unwell during the end of my pregnancy I was constantly told by doctors “if you don’t have a c-section your baby may die in utero.” I kept saying “give me the c-section then?” And they’d respond with something along the lines of “unfortunately that isn’t your choice.”
In the end they induced me, at that point, as a first time mother, just wanting to keep my baby alive, I followed their instructions. The induction was awful, I was in labour for days and they wouldn’t give me pain relief as they said “it’s good that you’re in pain, it means the induction is working.” Eventually my baby got stuck in the birth canal and I was rushed into theatre for an emergency c-section, my baby had to be resuscitated and was in hospital on oxygen with a feeding tube for 6 weeks afterwards. They wouldn’t let me hold her or breast feed her, the abuse was abysmal and vile, I’ll never have another baby because of this.
Each case should be looked at in an individual basis.
Some women have real medical issues.
Some women habe serious trauma due to nhs failures.
I know a couple of women who really pushed for c sections because they just wanted one, wild, its a major surgery, granted those are the same women that expect life to be pain and discomfort free and their midwives failed them on education.
These are the same women who really struggle with parental responsibilities, it may be a good first point indicator of people needing additional help and intervention for longer.
>The policy was deleted from its website and was not included in the election manifesto, but Mr Polanski told Sky News at the time, “it’s not that we have changed our minds”, adding expert advice would be needed before it could be included.
>There has been speculation in recent days that the party plans on officially withdrawing the policy, but more than 50 Labour MPs have written to Mr Polanski urging him to officially abandon the policy immediately.
Bit unclear if they actually still support it, they’re certainly not publishing it or advocating for it currently, they just haven’t taken an official vote to reverse the policy. Kind of feels like Labour reaching for an attack line to try and stop their voters bleeding away to Green.
“it was deleted from its website and did not appear in their 2024 election manifesto” this is a campaign by labour mps to smear the greens, nothing further
Ah yes, the Party who HAS NEVER BEEN IN POWER needs to change its policies because they are harmful.
Meanwhile, regarding the party currently in power causing massive harm to millions of people, nothing is said.
Call me unconvinced about how sincere this article’s author is.
TLDR: This is clearly a smear campaign, directly targeted at policy being actively debated within the party. It’s a deliberate misrepresentation.
**For people interested in an** *accurate* **picture (not reactionary misrepresentation) of this particular policy and Green Party policies in general:**
1. The policy section of their website explains how the party’s policies are implemented democratically by members, with voting held on proposed policies/amendments twice a year at members’ conferences. Also note that, for any motion to be considered at conference it must be agreed upon by a certain number of members (depending on from whom/by what process a motion originated from).
2. The next members’ conference is the Spring Conference scheduled for 26th March 2026.
3. Item **E28: Update Maternity Policy to Reflect Patient Safety Evidence** on the agenda for the spring conference was **proposed in August 2025 (12/07/25)**. It is proposed as follows:
> **Synopsis**
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> Replace outdated maternity policy language with policy that puts maternal and infant safety first, learning from major maternity scandals including Morecambe Bay, Shrewsbury and Telford, and East Kent.
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> **Motion text**
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> Conference resolves to delete HE502 in its entirety from the Policies for a Sustainable Society.
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> HE502 reads:
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> “The incidence of medical intervention in childbirth has escalated in recent years, particularly the rate of caesarean sections, which are expensive and, when not medically required, risky. We will work to reduce the number of interventions in childbirth, and change the culture of the NHS so that birth is treated as a normal and non-medical event, in which mothers are empowered and able to be in control.”
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> **Briefing paper**
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> This policy would be made redundant if the Health policy working paper is approved. If it is not approved, it is imperative this clause is removed regardless.
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> Current policy HE502 contradicts medical consensus and defends a practice which has contributed to preventable deaths in multiple NHS maternity scandals.
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> **This policy has already brought the party into disrepute and must be fixed.**
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> Morecambe Bay (2015) One mother and eleven babies died. The Kirkup Report found midwives had pursued “normal” childbirth “at any cost.”
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> Shrewsbury and Telford (2022) Hundreds of babies were left brain damaged or died. The Ockenden Report found the hospital had been praised for its low caesarean rate, concluding “some mothers and babies had been harmed by this approach.”
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> East Kent (2023) Similar patterns of prioritising natural birth ideology over safety, resulting in preventable deaths.
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> This policy reflects the viewpoint that pursuing “normal birth at any cost” should be a key objective. However, this has been conclusively to harm mothers and babies in recent years.
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> The Royal College of Midwives dropped the language of “normal” or “natural” births in 2017 because this terminology contributed to harmful practices. Donna Ockenden, who led the Shrewsbury investigation, criticised this Green Party policy and recommended we read her reporting (linked below).
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> Setting reduction of intervention rates as a policy goal creates perverse incentives – the appropriate rate is whatever produces the best outcomes, not the lowest rate. Characterising caesareans as “expensive and risky” without acknowledging they are often life-saving reinforces the anti-intervention bias that contributed to deaths in all three scandals.
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> **Resources:**
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> * Kirkup Report: Morecambe Bay Investigation (2015)
> * Ockenden Report: Shrewsbury and Telford (2022)
> * East Kent Maternity Review
> * Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists
> * Royal College of Midwives
*I removed the links from the “resources” section to avoid this comment getting flagged*
>”… but more than 50 Labour MPs have written to Mr Polanski”
Interesting group of people to be concerned about this
I find it weird that the Green party has had similar policy’s for decades but then all of a sudden they get popular, get lots of new members who want to change their policies to make them a completely different party?
Banning all animal testing used to be in there as well.
They can either accept that this will end all biotechnology and pharma industry and research in the UK, or at least they should write up a document outline exactly which humans will first receive the unsafe, untested medicine and what the grounds for selection are….
Ex-Labour activists join a fringe party and are horrified that it has fringe party policies.
Huh. Looks like they have the same problem as Reform. The bigger they get, the more moderate they have to become, and the more radical elements they have to drive out. By the end of all this we’re gonna end up with a Tory 2.0 and Labour 2.0 hoe down aint we?