“Families should be living in houses” – the taxpayers.
Impressive-Bird-6085 on
London Borough councils would do well to take heed of what Lincoln City Council are doing here – prioritising the housing needs of families!!
Commercial_Aioli7212 on
Just let property developers build what the market wants and it will work itself out
The government and council should not be invovled
WinHour4300 on
Actually the opposite. More students in flats means fewer sharing family sized homes.
It’s much harder to build family flats as there needs to be sufficient outdoor play space.
Strategically building way more student flats (Ideally) non for profit, could make a sizeable dent in the housing crisis in uni towns and cities, and save students and the government money (via lower student rents).
They also don’t even have to be super central (student villages with a dedicated bus and cycle lanes) or quiet (ex office type buildings) and can become aparthotels for tourists in the holidays.
allen_jb on
> However, Michelle Hoyles, the council’s housing strategy manager, said more student housing in the city was “unacceptable” and urged that the homes instead be aimed at the general population.
> City of Lincoln Council said there were already at least 800 unused student beds in the area, with many other buildings also far below capacity.
While I get some peoples love of hating on council planning, and the idea of “all new housing is good”, this does not seem an unsensible position from the council in this case.
I’d also note that the word “families” in the title seems to be paraphrasing here, while “general population” is used later (in the quoted section above).
man_bored_at_work on
Did no one read the article!? There are supposedly 800 recently built vacant student beds in the town. Totally makes sense for the council not to add more. (Probably more useful for small flats than family homes, but still…)
Arcon1337 on
It’s because they keep giving away houses to people who don’t try to work.
JackSpyder on
Student dedicated flats with their weird setups cater to a super specific cohort of people for a super short amount of time at wierdly expensive rates to the student.
We just need appartments from 1 to 3 (equal sized) beds. With a kitchen living rooms. For people who want them, to live alone, or with housemates.
Families with kids, looking too buy property generally want a house, they need more storage, outside space etc.
PS put fucking cupboards in houses. We need places to put stuff, coats, bedding, cleaning stuff, a few boxes. I feel like we just killed storage off entirely. Narrow hallways, tiny kitchen with a couple of cupboards, and rooms you can’t fit a bed desk wardrobe and chest of drawers in.
God i hate the UK housing situation so much.
BeardMonk1 on
Can somebody send this to Leeds Council? Please and thank you.
SecretaryOfCheese on
The council can’t get any council tax from students, I am not sure if that is part of the thinking too.
Is that location one that families want? Could it be better suited to being studios/small flats for early career professionals?
IsOverParty on
As someone who has attended the University of Lincoln, I believe the Council has made the right call here.
From the early 2000s through to 2016, student accommodation has popped up and transformed the city centre for the better.
However, there is now simply too much of it. Lots of buildings are well under capacity and a few are standing empty.
The University of Lincoln itself invested in far too many flats to compete with private developers and they don’t have the students to fill them—especially as international students numbers have dropped. I was offered a room for less than half the advertised annual rent in their latest development.
I would say a big problem with student housing in the city is that it’s socially accepted that in your second and third years you move into a house with your uni friends. These HMOs have taken over large parts of the inner city and neighbourhoods that were cheap and affordable for low income families such as Sincil Bank and West Parade.
Staying in student accommodation in your second and third year is often seen as unusual/weird. Like you didn’t make friends in your first year.
If the Council and the Universities incentivised students to stay in the flats throughout the duration of their studies—it would put lots of homes back onto the market for families and locals.
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Foolish. The hermit crabs have a better grasp of than local councillors
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zpjklLt1qWk&pp=ygUWaGVybWl0IGNyYWJzIGxpbmluZyB1cA%3D%3D
“Families should be living in houses” – the taxpayers.
London Borough councils would do well to take heed of what Lincoln City Council are doing here – prioritising the housing needs of families!!
Just let property developers build what the market wants and it will work itself out
The government and council should not be invovled
Actually the opposite. More students in flats means fewer sharing family sized homes.
It’s much harder to build family flats as there needs to be sufficient outdoor play space.
Strategically building way more student flats (Ideally) non for profit, could make a sizeable dent in the housing crisis in uni towns and cities, and save students and the government money (via lower student rents).
They also don’t even have to be super central (student villages with a dedicated bus and cycle lanes) or quiet (ex office type buildings) and can become aparthotels for tourists in the holidays.
> However, Michelle Hoyles, the council’s housing strategy manager, said more student housing in the city was “unacceptable” and urged that the homes instead be aimed at the general population.
> City of Lincoln Council said there were already at least 800 unused student beds in the area, with many other buildings also far below capacity.
While I get some peoples love of hating on council planning, and the idea of “all new housing is good”, this does not seem an unsensible position from the council in this case.
I’d also note that the word “families” in the title seems to be paraphrasing here, while “general population” is used later (in the quoted section above).
Did no one read the article!? There are supposedly 800 recently built vacant student beds in the town. Totally makes sense for the council not to add more. (Probably more useful for small flats than family homes, but still…)
It’s because they keep giving away houses to people who don’t try to work.
Student dedicated flats with their weird setups cater to a super specific cohort of people for a super short amount of time at wierdly expensive rates to the student.
We just need appartments from 1 to 3 (equal sized) beds. With a kitchen living rooms. For people who want them, to live alone, or with housemates.
Families with kids, looking too buy property generally want a house, they need more storage, outside space etc.
PS put fucking cupboards in houses. We need places to put stuff, coats, bedding, cleaning stuff, a few boxes. I feel like we just killed storage off entirely. Narrow hallways, tiny kitchen with a couple of cupboards, and rooms you can’t fit a bed desk wardrobe and chest of drawers in.
God i hate the UK housing situation so much.
Can somebody send this to Leeds Council? Please and thank you.
The council can’t get any council tax from students, I am not sure if that is part of the thinking too.
Is that location one that families want? Could it be better suited to being studios/small flats for early career professionals?
As someone who has attended the University of Lincoln, I believe the Council has made the right call here.
From the early 2000s through to 2016, student accommodation has popped up and transformed the city centre for the better.
However, there is now simply too much of it. Lots of buildings are well under capacity and a few are standing empty.
The University of Lincoln itself invested in far too many flats to compete with private developers and they don’t have the students to fill them—especially as international students numbers have dropped. I was offered a room for less than half the advertised annual rent in their latest development.
I would say a big problem with student housing in the city is that it’s socially accepted that in your second and third years you move into a house with your uni friends. These HMOs have taken over large parts of the inner city and neighbourhoods that were cheap and affordable for low income families such as Sincil Bank and West Parade.
Staying in student accommodation in your second and third year is often seen as unusual/weird. Like you didn’t make friends in your first year.
If the Council and the Universities incentivised students to stay in the flats throughout the duration of their studies—it would put lots of homes back onto the market for families and locals.