The vaccine students are typically given does not include this strain, and the vaccine that exists for this strain offers protection for the recipient but does not prevent the recipient passing on the disease.
Slapped91 on
It’s not really that explosive to be honest, well at least not yet. Back in the ’80s we used to get outbreaks relatively regularly and 2 or 3 times more people would contract the disease.
I suppose with the improvements in vaccinations and medical treatment that have occured in the intervening years it would make this a very large outbreak had it occured 40 years ago.
oklistening01 on
More fear, what wasn’t the Russian war, Iran war and cost of living enough?
WraithOfEvaBraun on
I’d love to ask “why is this news” but I fear I already know
Some_Entertainer6928 on
It’s not. It’s a distraction from a lot of other things happening in the UK or world at the moment.
BluebirdMarisa on
My theory is sharing something that go up the nose between multiple people. The bacteria usually lives there and it would explain the fast transmission because the nasal tissue is very very thin and gives direct access to the blood. We’ve had similar spreads with hepatitis due to bank note sharing by cocaine users in the 00s but the media didn’t seem to cover it well.
brokenalarm on
Symptoms of meningitis can come on very quickly and become severe before people even realise they have anything more than the flu, which is why it’s all of a sudden ‘people have died’ rather than ‘people are sick’
sim2500 on
Standard bacterial adaptation through virulence factors, population vulnerability and natural selection
ExoneratedPhoenix on
Look. I stated this in an earlier comment on another post but here is a quick rundown of epidemiology statistics.
That 2-10 day incubation period has massive right side bias. Most cases are 2-4 days incubation. Most outbreaks are small clusters, so when it comes to drawing up incubation times, of interacting populations and messy/imperfect data, you get these weird figures like 10 days passed since last known contact and then had a confirmed case. This is nearly always an assumption in the data and details, and never accurate. But you can’t just hand-wave it away and so you get a weird bell curve where 80% odd is 2-4 days and this tail exists with a precipitous drop off and log-normal sweeping tail.
Anyway.
The ground zero was 3-4-5 March. It went public with loads of cases 14th March.
This is 10 days – and likely based on SOP legal requirements. No way are all cases with 10 day incubation periods. Most of these people were ill before this public date, and the reality is NOBODY in the public knew and continued with their activities for TEN DAYS. This is a MASSIVE failing by the authorities who did not map so many Men cases occurring in a narrow geographical and time window. The reason numbers “exploded” is essentially no alarms were raised for close to 2 weeks. The precautionary antibiotics have been dosed 12 days after the initial outbreak. This is 3 generations worth of incubation times for 80%+ of infections. What we are seeing is like stone ripples a pond of cases appearing that got the bacteria before this was even publicly known. Tomorrow marks the day where most cases will be AFTER it hit the news.
A lot of people failed at their jobs, in my (educated on this topic) opinion.
Meningitis the close contacts should all be given prophylactic antibiotics (if bacterial) as soon as cases are found, and alerted. Given we KNOW many students who were close contacts have travelled across the country – this is a failure on the authorities.
They will never admit this, obviously. Blood taint scandal etc. They will cover their arses, but 10 days before going public, Jesus Christ.
SmallPromiseQueen on
Hope the kids in Kent are doing okay. It must be pretty traumatising to be going through this only 6 years after Covid started. And the ones that passed away were so incredibly young. Really sad.
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The vaccine students are typically given does not include this strain, and the vaccine that exists for this strain offers protection for the recipient but does not prevent the recipient passing on the disease.
It’s not really that explosive to be honest, well at least not yet. Back in the ’80s we used to get outbreaks relatively regularly and 2 or 3 times more people would contract the disease.
I suppose with the improvements in vaccinations and medical treatment that have occured in the intervening years it would make this a very large outbreak had it occured 40 years ago.
More fear, what wasn’t the Russian war, Iran war and cost of living enough?
I’d love to ask “why is this news” but I fear I already know
It’s not. It’s a distraction from a lot of other things happening in the UK or world at the moment.
My theory is sharing something that go up the nose between multiple people. The bacteria usually lives there and it would explain the fast transmission because the nasal tissue is very very thin and gives direct access to the blood. We’ve had similar spreads with hepatitis due to bank note sharing by cocaine users in the 00s but the media didn’t seem to cover it well.
Symptoms of meningitis can come on very quickly and become severe before people even realise they have anything more than the flu, which is why it’s all of a sudden ‘people have died’ rather than ‘people are sick’
Standard bacterial adaptation through virulence factors, population vulnerability and natural selection
Look. I stated this in an earlier comment on another post but here is a quick rundown of epidemiology statistics.
That 2-10 day incubation period has massive right side bias. Most cases are 2-4 days incubation. Most outbreaks are small clusters, so when it comes to drawing up incubation times, of interacting populations and messy/imperfect data, you get these weird figures like 10 days passed since last known contact and then had a confirmed case. This is nearly always an assumption in the data and details, and never accurate. But you can’t just hand-wave it away and so you get a weird bell curve where 80% odd is 2-4 days and this tail exists with a precipitous drop off and log-normal sweeping tail.
Anyway.
The ground zero was 3-4-5 March. It went public with loads of cases 14th March.
This is 10 days – and likely based on SOP legal requirements. No way are all cases with 10 day incubation periods. Most of these people were ill before this public date, and the reality is NOBODY in the public knew and continued with their activities for TEN DAYS. This is a MASSIVE failing by the authorities who did not map so many Men cases occurring in a narrow geographical and time window. The reason numbers “exploded” is essentially no alarms were raised for close to 2 weeks. The precautionary antibiotics have been dosed 12 days after the initial outbreak. This is 3 generations worth of incubation times for 80%+ of infections. What we are seeing is like stone ripples a pond of cases appearing that got the bacteria before this was even publicly known. Tomorrow marks the day where most cases will be AFTER it hit the news.
A lot of people failed at their jobs, in my (educated on this topic) opinion.
Meningitis the close contacts should all be given prophylactic antibiotics (if bacterial) as soon as cases are found, and alerted. Given we KNOW many students who were close contacts have travelled across the country – this is a failure on the authorities.
They will never admit this, obviously. Blood taint scandal etc. They will cover their arses, but 10 days before going public, Jesus Christ.
Hope the kids in Kent are doing okay. It must be pretty traumatising to be going through this only 6 years after Covid started. And the ones that passed away were so incredibly young. Really sad.