Attualmente sembra che ci sia stata una sorta di ondata di rapper fiamminghi. I rapper belgi francofoni sono sempre stati i più commerciali e popolari, ora sembra che la situazione stia cambiando e la scena rap fiamminga sta andando meglio di quella francofona. Cosa ne pensi? Oppure sono semplicemente troppo concentrato sul rap fiammingo in questo momento, perché la scena rap di Bruxelles sembra morta da quando Damso è andato in Francia
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di Lukachooo2004
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Zwangere Guy is not Flemish? He’s from BXL…
French just sounds way better than Flemish in rap songs. Always has been. Even with the undeniable succes of ZG, I still cringe with half his lyrics.
T Hof van Commerce voe altid!
En Opgezwolle, als de taal gewoon dezelfde mag zijn.
French rap in general is slowing down a bit. The golden era of 2016 is old news both in France and Belgium. That may be why you believe it’s dead but I can assure you there’s still ten times more french speaking rap being made in Belgium than “flemish” rap. Flanders just doesn’t have that same hiphop culture. French speaking rap doesn’t cross the language border anymore like it used to because it’s not a big phenomenon anymore.
ZG is BXL rap tho, Flemish rap is super bare bones imo. Only ones I respect are ‘t hof van commerce and Yung Yello to a degree. Flemish rap is manufactured and industry coordinated shit, Tourist Le MC is hot garbage and don’t get me started on Brihang.
If anyone else has some recs i’ll check it out
De Feesters
Isha alone has the double of listener than ZG. French speaking rappers from Belgium have a massive audience in France and Canada, I don’t think the comparison is possible. No flemish rappers I know have an audience like a Hamza , Damso, green montana or even romeo elvis
I’ll probably get downvoted for this, but I honestly think Flemish/Dutch just isn’t a language that suits rap very well.
French just feels more lyrical, allows for nicer phrasing, flow, alliteration, ..
There’s just something about the sound of Dutch that doesn’t really fit hip-hop or rapping, but of course this all comes down to personal taste in the end.
I will add that I feel the same way about Swedish and Norwegian.
OG’s remember K.I.A.!
Morgen is zaterdag!
Eigen Makelij is weer actief, heeft tal van nieuwe artiesten en zijn volop muziek aan het releasen. Ze organiseren ook regelmatig shows! Ze maken er echt een punt van om de Vlaamse scene te ondersteunen en een podium te geven.
Why VS? Any culture needs to be rich to flourish. This is like saying techno vs house. You’ll go crazy of listening to the same thing all year.
Rap is cringe
I think some French rap is popular with Flemish audiences, but I know for a fact that no French-speaking audience listens to Flemish rap (or songs in general)
Damso is not a loss. His lyrics were crap subject/theme-wise. Take “Bruxelles Vie” for example, absolutly pornographic crappy lyrics, instead of being a sociological analysis of the region like it should be. Good rap reads like a marxist thesis or Bourdieu sociological text, not like some egotrip, sex song or praise of monetary gains.
Damso had way too many sexual songs that don’t belong to the genre, but belong to pop music.
I’m not a hiphop head but tbh neither sound as good as English language ones. Maybe it’s just what I’m used to. Rap is supposed to sound tough and French sounds soft. It could actually be about some hard shit but it will still sound like buying flowers for oma.
I don’t consider Zwangere Guy to be “flemish” rap, it’s Brussels rap in flemish, the attitude is completely different.
ZG sounds like BX, while most flemish rappers sounds like a verkavelingswijk.
Tourist used to be cool when he was still in the Seefhoek, then he turned all Bart Peeters…don’t get me started on Brihang etc.
Spinal (nl – niet vlaams) maar toch nog steeds een van teksten dat bijblijven
Time for some promo for my favorite dutch rapper
TIEWAI
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1DZ06evO3y47pU
Geen rap maar metal 🤘🏻
‘t Hof van Commerce is nie best, ‘t Hof van Commerce is oljinne.
Ge goat er nog van uorn.
ZG seems to be quite cool but he sounds like my former school teacher so I prefer rap in Flemish/Dutch dialects instead of ZG.
you live in a bubble. Flemish rap is peanuts compared to dutch or french scene.
– no real original voices
– lyrics are always about being unsuccesful/depressed/
– it’s always superserious (no jeugd van tegenwoordig/opposites fun)
– no innovation in beats
– The big streamers like Dikke have a fanbase that is to young or doesn’t have the culture to go to live shows.
ZG and Brihangs audience are all 40+ white dudes whith cash to spend, so they get to be more succesfull.
But nowhere close to french speaking rappers, they are playing in a different league.
The only flemish rap i enjoy are [watergruwels ](https://youtu.be/XPuiaIKjBOE?list=RDXPuiaIKjBOE)at the moment: