Avremo la metropolitana a Dublino solo se riusciranno a derubarci alla cieca. Potremmo convincere i francesi a costruire queste belle metropolitane sopraelevate per molto meno?
Avremo la metropolitana a Dublino solo se riusciranno a derubarci alla cieca. Potremmo convincere i francesi a costruire queste belle metropolitane sopraelevate per molto meno?
We could have the French build a metro for €2bn like they did in 2018 in Rennes.
15km for €2bn, vs our proposed Metro thats 18km for €7-12bn+
No-Ingenuity1475 on
its more of a shelbyville idea
WG678 on
And have the city be a complete eyesore?
Efficient_Log_2007 on
The shadow from that from elevated metro is casting a shadow on my flowerbed. Judicial review requred, then after that fails it’s the high court.
Mr-Mystery20 on
Until nimbys come knocking and the rounds and rounds of judicial reviews, objections and planning issues come up. Overground metros would cause an earthquake in a city unable to build an underground one or anything high rise in general
svmk1987 on
We aren’t building underground for the heck of it. The only parts which are underground are the parts near the city which don’t have space to squeeze another line in and it’s not practical to build a bridge. It comes over the ground after the airport and to swords, and even some bits before the airport.
Dunebuggy15 on
Is that Ogdenville?
SevenIsMy on
Metros are good shelter for wartimes, but a bad shelter when it comes to floods
Priority_Kooky on
Is there not a way for the government to build these projects without the objectors, well objecting?
Are compulsory purchase orders not usable in the public interest, as this would benefit millions of people and tourists during its lifetime?
tightropetom on
I hear those things are awfully loud
Training-Science-743 on
Is this Toulouse?
Ok-Morning3407 on
Parts of Metrolink will actually be built on a viaduct/embankment where possible and above ground and cut and cover where possible. It will only be deep bored tunnelled where necessary, under the Airport and in the City Center.
Metrolink was very much designed with being affordable in mind. That is why all the stations are relatively small station boxes built using cut and cover and mostly with just one entrance, etc.
Also there is a good chance the French might build it, with the help of the Spanish. One of the consortiums bidding on it includes 3 French companies including Alstom and RATP along with a Spanish construction firm.
It isn’t the French or whoever building it that makes it expensive, it is our planning and judicial system. It took Metrolink 3 years to just get through ABP. Any changes now like you suggest would set you back to square one and require years of design, public consultation, planning and legal battles.
No we are fortunately beyond all that nonsense, now we just need to focus on getting on with it and building it.
reillyrulz on
Yeah and we can have those streets from New York or Chicago, where your apartment or office lives permanently under the shadow of a railway 👎
Craicriture on
Can you imagine the objections – it might cast a slight shadow… we’d letters in the door ranting about how a 6 storey apartment building would be “like Manhattan” lol
Dublin already has one of them – the Loop Line Bridge.
Done properly they’re not bad eg Vancouver Sky Train
MyNameIsMantis on
>*Nice*
?
HereWeGoAgain666999 on
It’s so quiet u won’t even notice it’s there
R3turn_MAC on
Going back to the drawing board and redesigning the already approved plan would add at least 10 years to the delivery time.
Might it be cheaper to build? Possibly. Would the delay be worth it? No.
MickeysDa on
Is there a chance the track could bend?
bojonfield on
Call-of-the-lost-one on
Less? With our government that couldn’t even get a reasonable price for a bike shed. A monorail would take years, or the same time it would take to build a children’s hospital
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We could have the French build a metro for €2bn like they did in 2018 in Rennes.
15km for €2bn, vs our proposed Metro thats 18km for €7-12bn+
its more of a shelbyville idea
And have the city be a complete eyesore?
The shadow from that from elevated metro is casting a shadow on my flowerbed. Judicial review requred, then after that fails it’s the high court.
Until nimbys come knocking and the rounds and rounds of judicial reviews, objections and planning issues come up. Overground metros would cause an earthquake in a city unable to build an underground one or anything high rise in general
We aren’t building underground for the heck of it. The only parts which are underground are the parts near the city which don’t have space to squeeze another line in and it’s not practical to build a bridge. It comes over the ground after the airport and to swords, and even some bits before the airport.
Is that Ogdenville?
Metros are good shelter for wartimes, but a bad shelter when it comes to floods
Is there not a way for the government to build these projects without the objectors, well objecting?
Are compulsory purchase orders not usable in the public interest, as this would benefit millions of people and tourists during its lifetime?
I hear those things are awfully loud
Is this Toulouse?
Parts of Metrolink will actually be built on a viaduct/embankment where possible and above ground and cut and cover where possible. It will only be deep bored tunnelled where necessary, under the Airport and in the City Center.
Metrolink was very much designed with being affordable in mind. That is why all the stations are relatively small station boxes built using cut and cover and mostly with just one entrance, etc.
Also there is a good chance the French might build it, with the help of the Spanish. One of the consortiums bidding on it includes 3 French companies including Alstom and RATP along with a Spanish construction firm.
It isn’t the French or whoever building it that makes it expensive, it is our planning and judicial system. It took Metrolink 3 years to just get through ABP. Any changes now like you suggest would set you back to square one and require years of design, public consultation, planning and legal battles.
No we are fortunately beyond all that nonsense, now we just need to focus on getting on with it and building it.
Yeah and we can have those streets from New York or Chicago, where your apartment or office lives permanently under the shadow of a railway 👎
Can you imagine the objections – it might cast a slight shadow… we’d letters in the door ranting about how a 6 storey apartment building would be “like Manhattan” lol
Dublin already has one of them – the Loop Line Bridge.
Done properly they’re not bad eg Vancouver Sky Train
>*Nice*
?
It’s so quiet u won’t even notice it’s there
Going back to the drawing board and redesigning the already approved plan would add at least 10 years to the delivery time.
Might it be cheaper to build? Possibly. Would the delay be worth it? No.
Is there a chance the track could bend?
Less? With our government that couldn’t even get a reasonable price for a bike shed. A monorail would take years, or the same time it would take to build a children’s hospital
I hear those things are awfully loud