>Britain will not be able to meet its Nato commitments next month because it does not have any available warships in what has been branded a “national embarrassment”.
>Ministers have had to turn to Germany to help fill the void left by the Royal Navy to meet its obligations in the Atlantic Ocean and Baltic Sea in April.
>Sources told The i Paper that the UK will still be in command of the task force, but will be doing so **from the German flagship**.
Heh 🙂
No idea if it’s sensationalism and tbh. it’s great to have fallbacks in European NATO. Also, I have no idea how we have enough ships for that.
PoliticsIsDepressing on
If a certain someone in WWII read this headline they’d be over the moon.
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tree_boom on
Obviously the low availability is a sucky point. It is quite frustrating to have the planned deployment scuppered by what are effectively political considerations rather than operational need, but there we go. Not the first nor the last time that such a thing will happen, and it’s good that Germany can step in to fill the gap.
EvilFroeschken on
Lol. Germany has like 10 frigates and 6 subs? Didn’t expect this would leave some to spare. I can remember the headlines when all 6 submarines were out of action for maintenance at the same time.
BenButton123 on
Why is every other post on this sub suddenly about the Royal Navy?
Any-Original-6113 on
“King has a lot”
beekop on
The foreign policy makers have spread a declining Royal Navy too thinly to maintain the fig leaf of global capability – e.g. Freedom of navigation exercises in the Taiwan Strait, nuclear submarines in Australia etc – without adequately resourcing it. The military is run on a shoestring, there is no slack in the system.
Thelaea on
So NATO is working as intended. Good.
ctudor on
ok, but this means nothing unless the article also tells why:
1) has UK decommissioned ships and not replace them historically
2) it happens that they are under a maintenance cycle for short term
3) they are deployed on extraordinary missions in the middle east / asia that where not foresaw at the moment of the nato commitment
4) they have the ships but have personel shortages, etc?!
Zashkarn on
Great british navy has fallen so far it has put officers in charge of german ships?
LeroyoJenkins on
Rule Britannia…as long as there’s no water on the way!
Prize-Grapefruiter on
what mission? NATO already invaded every country.
Bango-TSW on
It’s not just a national embaressment. It’s a complete disgrace.
AMeasuredBerserker on
The state of the UK armed forces is shocking and truly makes you question where all the budget is being spent to receive so little from it.
WickedFrags on
No’ mo’ ruling the waves? How peculiar!
Adorable-Database187 on
So allies working together to fill their capability gaps, how refreshing.
Isnt this the whole point of being allies
OkKnowledge2064 on
if the german navy has to help you out youve hit rock bottom. Our navy really is useless
CruxMajoris on
UK is currently battling a good two decades of naval cuts, but is currently building up a larger number of replacement vessels so in the future things will be better.
It takes time to fix the issues the Royal Navy is facing, and shipbuilding isn’t a quick and easy process.
Legio-XIII-Gemina on
Looks like the Anglo-German naval arms race has finally been settled.
SnooDrawings6556 on
The rum ration was canceled, they banned the lash and sodomy is generally accepted. The three things holding together the Royal Navy are gone
I’m sorry but if your ships weren’t ready for trump they weren’t ready for any war to begin with
watch-nerd on
How can an island nation not have a navy in a high state of readiness?
That would seem to throw away centuries of British strategic doctrine.
Wooden_Employment449 on
Its truly shocking we are down to single figures number of royal navy ships! If we went to war tomorrow we would be screwed and defeated within days. Youd think contingency planning would be happening NOW! Buy surplus FREMM, arleigh burke, whatever warships we can lay our hands on and get them into immediate service NOW!
viralata75 on
Hebt die Bismark 🤘
yubnubster on
The UK isn’t a world spanning empire anymore, with a fleet to match, story of the day.
We are building new ships, it’s going to take time, but that is the only solution to not having enough.
Raz0rking on
They get there, slowly. They have like a dozen ships being built right now.
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>Britain will not be able to meet its Nato commitments next month because it does not have any available warships in what has been branded a “national embarrassment”.
>Ministers have had to turn to Germany to help fill the void left by the Royal Navy to meet its obligations in the Atlantic Ocean and Baltic Sea in April.
>Sources told The i Paper that the UK will still be in command of the task force, but will be doing so **from the German flagship**.
Heh 🙂
No idea if it’s sensationalism and tbh. it’s great to have fallbacks in European NATO. Also, I have no idea how we have enough ships for that.
If a certain someone in WWII read this headline they’d be over the moon.
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Obviously the low availability is a sucky point. It is quite frustrating to have the planned deployment scuppered by what are effectively political considerations rather than operational need, but there we go. Not the first nor the last time that such a thing will happen, and it’s good that Germany can step in to fill the gap.
Lol. Germany has like 10 frigates and 6 subs? Didn’t expect this would leave some to spare. I can remember the headlines when all 6 submarines were out of action for maintenance at the same time.
Why is every other post on this sub suddenly about the Royal Navy?
“King has a lot”
The foreign policy makers have spread a declining Royal Navy too thinly to maintain the fig leaf of global capability – e.g. Freedom of navigation exercises in the Taiwan Strait, nuclear submarines in Australia etc – without adequately resourcing it. The military is run on a shoestring, there is no slack in the system.
So NATO is working as intended. Good.
ok, but this means nothing unless the article also tells why:
1) has UK decommissioned ships and not replace them historically
2) it happens that they are under a maintenance cycle for short term
3) they are deployed on extraordinary missions in the middle east / asia that where not foresaw at the moment of the nato commitment
4) they have the ships but have personel shortages, etc?!
Great british navy has fallen so far it has put officers in charge of german ships?
Rule Britannia…as long as there’s no water on the way!
what mission? NATO already invaded every country.
It’s not just a national embaressment. It’s a complete disgrace.
The state of the UK armed forces is shocking and truly makes you question where all the budget is being spent to receive so little from it.
No’ mo’ ruling the waves? How peculiar!
So allies working together to fill their capability gaps, how refreshing.
Isnt this the whole point of being allies
if the german navy has to help you out youve hit rock bottom. Our navy really is useless
UK is currently battling a good two decades of naval cuts, but is currently building up a larger number of replacement vessels so in the future things will be better.
It takes time to fix the issues the Royal Navy is facing, and shipbuilding isn’t a quick and easy process.
Looks like the Anglo-German naval arms race has finally been settled.
The rum ration was canceled, they banned the lash and sodomy is generally accepted. The three things holding together the Royal Navy are gone
The Hochseeflotte is so back
“Britannia rules the waves” eh?
This video sums up the state of the Royal Navy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gru2EDJvj9Q
I’m sorry but if your ships weren’t ready for trump they weren’t ready for any war to begin with
How can an island nation not have a navy in a high state of readiness?
That would seem to throw away centuries of British strategic doctrine.
Its truly shocking we are down to single figures number of royal navy ships! If we went to war tomorrow we would be screwed and defeated within days. Youd think contingency planning would be happening NOW! Buy surplus FREMM, arleigh burke, whatever warships we can lay our hands on and get them into immediate service NOW!
Hebt die Bismark 🤘
The UK isn’t a world spanning empire anymore, with a fleet to match, story of the day.
We are building new ships, it’s going to take time, but that is the only solution to not having enough.
They get there, slowly. They have like a dozen ships being built right now.
More bollocks
Just more bollocks