The role of the Lords is to scrutinize legislation and to offer advice or amendments that they believe improves the legislation they are examining. If they do pass amendments that the Commons do not agree with then they simply vote them down. It is not the role of the HoL to simply rubber stamp legislation that the Commons have passed, so all this performative signalling from the Unions and some in the PLP is a bit much.
If push comes to shove the Commons can simply utilise the Parliament acts and cut out the Lords all together so if they really want the legislation unaltered they can simply force it through although there will be a delay in the bill itself.
bigarsebiscuit on
The whole chamber needs massive reforms, like canning it totally in its current form.
Caephon on
Hereditary peers that form a part of a countries legislature should not exist. At all. It is absurd that we still abide this in a modern democracy.
Longjumping_Nail_486 on
Aristocracy voting against plebs, who would have thought it?
lordnacho666 on
Just can them. Everyone who makes laws should be elected.
By proportional representation, but one thing at a time.
setokaiba22 on
Tbh regardless.. there are issues with this workers right bill for employers and it will absolutely cause some losses and such as well.
It does need mitigating somewhat – and I’m all for workers rights but when you look at all the proposals you can see problems fundamentally
bars_and_plates on
Usain Bolt would, presumably, vote against bionic legs being allowed in the 100m olympics. He has a vested interest. He would also be in the right.
Assuming that simply because someone is in a position of power that their viewpoints are automatically incorrect is silly. The entire point of the Lords is to serve as a kind of disinterested observer to do what’s right rather than what benefits them or their tribe personally.
I am also in general not in favour of “workers rights” in the Guardian’s definition in the sense that I believe in the freedom of individuals to enter into contracts. The right to say no is important. On both sides. Beyond that lies madness.
If you make it hilariously difficult to employ someone then you will get less employment. Offshoring, AI, whatever. It sucks, but it is unavoidable, unless you want the Government to employ everyone.
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The role of the Lords is to scrutinize legislation and to offer advice or amendments that they believe improves the legislation they are examining. If they do pass amendments that the Commons do not agree with then they simply vote them down. It is not the role of the HoL to simply rubber stamp legislation that the Commons have passed, so all this performative signalling from the Unions and some in the PLP is a bit much.
If push comes to shove the Commons can simply utilise the Parliament acts and cut out the Lords all together so if they really want the legislation unaltered they can simply force it through although there will be a delay in the bill itself.
The whole chamber needs massive reforms, like canning it totally in its current form.
Hereditary peers that form a part of a countries legislature should not exist. At all. It is absurd that we still abide this in a modern democracy.
Aristocracy voting against plebs, who would have thought it?
Just can them. Everyone who makes laws should be elected.
By proportional representation, but one thing at a time.
Tbh regardless.. there are issues with this workers right bill for employers and it will absolutely cause some losses and such as well.
It does need mitigating somewhat – and I’m all for workers rights but when you look at all the proposals you can see problems fundamentally
Usain Bolt would, presumably, vote against bionic legs being allowed in the 100m olympics. He has a vested interest. He would also be in the right.
Assuming that simply because someone is in a position of power that their viewpoints are automatically incorrect is silly. The entire point of the Lords is to serve as a kind of disinterested observer to do what’s right rather than what benefits them or their tribe personally.
I am also in general not in favour of “workers rights” in the Guardian’s definition in the sense that I believe in the freedom of individuals to enter into contracts. The right to say no is important. On both sides. Beyond that lies madness.
If you make it hilariously difficult to employ someone then you will get less employment. Offshoring, AI, whatever. It sucks, but it is unavoidable, unless you want the Government to employ everyone.
Well, we seem to be well on the way to that, so…