Understand that these kids have a curfew, usually between 8-10pm. If they are even a single minute late, their carers have to report them missing to the gardai.
There was one young lad in Waterford who was 17 and was reported missing every single night. He was hanging out wiht his mates in the city centre, not up to much really. Eventually the gardai would have time to pick him up and bring him home.
Every night.
AlternativePea6203 on
In the past the kids would have gone missing for hours or days, or forever, and would simply have been lost in the statistics, or down a sewer.
There’s the reverse problem here. Every time a kids “goes missing” for a few minutes (ok 15 minutes) a report is generated and the statistics are bumped up. Even though the kid isn’t really “missing” just a bit late, or hiding from authority figures. It’s bureaucratic overkill and causes alarmist headlines like this.
Sure, when the kid is missing raise the alarm, but then reverse the missing status when the kid is found smoking behind the building, or snogging in the broom cupboard.
It skews the numbers and minimises the times when kids ACTUALLY went missing, either runaways, or coerced, or tempted away for terrible reasons.
mrbuddymcbuddyface on
I know a social care worker who worked in a home with kids in care, an absolute impossible task. Unless you were to physically chain them to a wall in a locked room (which obviously doesn’t happen) they would abscond.
For most of them, it’s just a temporary containment exercise until they are old enough, and will eventually be locked up in adult jails for their criminal activities.
SoloWingPixy88 on
So little shit didn’t follow curfew or check in with social worker?
Willing-Departure115 on
Serious question: Is there a care system in the world that’s excellent, and what makes it excellent?
Seems to me that social care systems in democracies (i.e., where you can’t just chain someone to the wall) have issues. Of course we shouldn’t accept them and should strive to be better, and listening to social workers who have worked for Tusla say it is a terribly run organisation. But equally I don’t see too many examples of countries that do this really well, which indicates that it is just hard bloody work no matter what resources you put in.
Bill_Badbody on
A girl i know used to work in a residential care home. Mainly teenagers.
She said residents would go “missing” multiple times a week. But that they almost always knew where they were. And the would ring the Gardai who would go and pick them up.
They had no power to actually physically stop them leaving.
FluffyDiscipline on
I think what is more concerning is those that remain “missing”
Children who have disappeared for years or in immediate danger and vunerable to become involved in cime,
there is just too many holes not filled in with the current system.
Mysterious_Bite_3207 on
But Ireland has such a strong record of organisational child care.
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Understand that these kids have a curfew, usually between 8-10pm. If they are even a single minute late, their carers have to report them missing to the gardai.
There was one young lad in Waterford who was 17 and was reported missing every single night. He was hanging out wiht his mates in the city centre, not up to much really. Eventually the gardai would have time to pick him up and bring him home.
Every night.
In the past the kids would have gone missing for hours or days, or forever, and would simply have been lost in the statistics, or down a sewer.
There’s the reverse problem here. Every time a kids “goes missing” for a few minutes (ok 15 minutes) a report is generated and the statistics are bumped up. Even though the kid isn’t really “missing” just a bit late, or hiding from authority figures. It’s bureaucratic overkill and causes alarmist headlines like this.
Sure, when the kid is missing raise the alarm, but then reverse the missing status when the kid is found smoking behind the building, or snogging in the broom cupboard.
It skews the numbers and minimises the times when kids ACTUALLY went missing, either runaways, or coerced, or tempted away for terrible reasons.
I know a social care worker who worked in a home with kids in care, an absolute impossible task. Unless you were to physically chain them to a wall in a locked room (which obviously doesn’t happen) they would abscond.
For most of them, it’s just a temporary containment exercise until they are old enough, and will eventually be locked up in adult jails for their criminal activities.
So little shit didn’t follow curfew or check in with social worker?
Serious question: Is there a care system in the world that’s excellent, and what makes it excellent?
Seems to me that social care systems in democracies (i.e., where you can’t just chain someone to the wall) have issues. Of course we shouldn’t accept them and should strive to be better, and listening to social workers who have worked for Tusla say it is a terribly run organisation. But equally I don’t see too many examples of countries that do this really well, which indicates that it is just hard bloody work no matter what resources you put in.
A girl i know used to work in a residential care home. Mainly teenagers.
She said residents would go “missing” multiple times a week. But that they almost always knew where they were. And the would ring the Gardai who would go and pick them up.
They had no power to actually physically stop them leaving.
I think what is more concerning is those that remain “missing”
Children who have disappeared for years or in immediate danger and vunerable to become involved in cime,
there is just too many holes not filled in with the current system.
But Ireland has such a strong record of organisational child care.