Con tutti i discorsi su una potenziale guerra in arrivo in tutta Europa ultimamente, si è discusso molto sui kit di emergenza nel mio paese d’origine. Ho controllato le raccomandazioni del governo tedesco e ho visto che in realtà suggeriscono di immagazzinare cibo e acqua per 10 giorni: https://www.bbk.bund.de/EN/Prepare-for-disasters/Personal-Preparedness/Stockpiling/stockpiling_node.html . Per riferimento, si tratta di 20 litri di acqua a persona (!!) – quindi una famiglia di 4 persone avrebbe bisogno di 80 litri. Dove lo conservi?
Si tratta semplicemente di un atteggiamento eccessivamente cauto da parte della Germania, oppure è davvero possibile che il governo non sia in grado di fornire sostegno prima in una grave crisi? La maggior parte degli altri paesi sembra raccomandare circa 72 ore.
Qualcuno qui tiene davvero tutta quella roba di emergenza a casa?
German emergency advice says 10 days of food/water supplies — is that realistic?
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Something like this drops every few months. Do what you will with this information 🤷
It even used to be 14 days and was only reduced to 10 days a couple of years ago.
IMHO I think there is absolutely no way that the government will give you any reasonable help in 72h if there really is a serious, non-local emergency. I consider 10 days of supplies reasonable
80L can be done with 1 canister. The worry is also less about war and way more about floods and other natural disasters. Some people in the Ahrtal were certainly cut off for quite a while, so 10 days seem extra safe, but probably not completely unreasonable.
Usually the advice is to fill up your bathtub and other containers if theres a major threat / catastrophe expected. I usually have a few crates of bottled water stored anyway, but probably not 20 liters per person.
Lol no, most of us neither have the money nor storage space.
Every country makes his own recommendations. The goal is to minimize chaos and problems. There’s no need to be more concerned because others recommend less.
Yes I know people who store a lot, some are more scared, some aren’t at all.
It’s always good to have something at home in case you can’t leave – war isn’t the only reason. Remember that stuff gets old, even water doesn’t last forever. If you keep something at home remember to rotate the stuff.
Step 1: scare the population.
Step 2: activate the war industry (raise taxes, buy/manufacture weapons, military service).
Step 2 only works if you get step 1. Otherwise the town opposes it.
Color me overly optimistic but the idea of Russia invading NATO seems close to zero. They’ve been bleeding equipment and personnel in Ukraine, their economy is in shambles, they just don’t have the capability. The saber rattling we’re seeing is meant to scare allied countries into stockpiling equipment rather than sending it over to Ukraine
It is overly cautious: if the government can‘t assist you within a few days they will not be able to do so at all. There is a a saying here: Haben ist besser als brauchen. There also was an official list circulating a few years ago that showed: Germans are not supposed to go down in anything but decadence. The list included wine, several sorts of cheese, coffee, garlic, all sorts of fruits,… With all that said, this list is not meant to be stored aside but what one should have at home, use and stack up constanly. It is not meant as fear mongering like war but in case you are snowed in,..
The preparedness advice of the Bundesamt für Bevölkerungsschutz und Katastrophenhilfe (BBK — Federal Office for Civil Protection) is neither new nor does it have anything to do with war. It is a general way of makig the population more resilient.
>is it genuinely possible that the government wouldn’t be able to provide support any earlier in a major crisis?
Well, I started taking this stuff seriously after the [Münsterländer Schneechaos](https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%BCnsterl%C3%A4nder_Schneechaos). A series of unlikely events can always lead to a situation where either electricity (and therefore also heating [and water — depending on your water system]) or water (and therefore also heating) or both are affected.
Very doable and there is even a handy guide from the BBK to help guide what you should buy.
In addition to what others have said, if people who _do_ have space keep a large stock of water, then that helps take some of the immediate pressure off emergency supplies in the aftermath of a disaster.
The advice had been more or less the same the last 80 years.
The topic now is pushed by fear-mongering media on a half-year basis it feels.
Emergency stockpile is not a matter of war. It can be a public blackout or even a massive flooding or landslide, breaking any roads to or from your village.
In desaster control there is a sentence „Es gibt keinen AB-Brot“ (There is no bread storage container) It means that no public institution can store all necessary personal supplies for large amounts of affected people available immediately. The only thing institutions can perform is providing distribution infrastructure in desaster cases within several days but in the first days everyone should be able to provide for themselves.
They’ve been giving out advice for years – and constantly update it. You can order their manuals etc for free online (which are actually quite interesting).
Tbh ever since covid, I’ve always had a small stockpile of things which proved to be quite useful at the time.
The current guidance is that all households should “try to be self-sufficient” for 10 days – but the general minimum recommendation is 3 days.
The better stockpiles people have and the better prepared they are, the less chaos there will be when something happens, and that is the ultimate goal. Lest we forget the toilet paper drama of 2020.
“Plan for the worst, hope for the best.”
With maybe/possibly/porbable impending disasters the advise is and has always been to fill your bathtub, buckets and/large pots with water.
No, most people will probably not have 20 liters of drinking water per person stocked at all times, but why not trying to keep it on people’s mind? It sure as hell is easier to send around water trucks to help people than water *and* food, so it makes stuff a little easier for emergency services in case of catastrophe. It would simply be stupid and negligent not to mention fluids on the emergency “better to have at home”-list.
And while I personally do not have 50 litres of drinking water in bottles stored away, I do have a few extra litres of storable milk and juice that I rotate every few months and I am aware of a way to get the water out of our 200 l water tank in the basement.
10 days of water is kind of a problem for me. I only drink tap water. If I bought bottles, they would just stand around for years and at some point I would just throw them down the drain. On the other hand, filling up a canister with tap water doesn’t really feel like it’s going to last long. Maybe a week. So I would have to refill it all the time.
Anyone have an easy solution?
I dont think any government could provide the whole country with the basic needs in 72 hours, let alone with good products.
We (family of 5, a dog, a cat, 3 horses) could live from our supplies for about 3 weeks.
But we do have a well that we could operate by hand.
If you’re not living in a big city it’s pretty normal to keep enough food to last you at least a week.
I have 200l under my bed.
Remember, 1000l is a cubic meter, so that is not that much room.
Don’t you guys stock 10 days of fizzy water anyway as part of your culture? Not realy a big deal.
The few that are wealthy enough to have those sparkling water machines that make it from the mains supply in demand.. well they certanly have the funds and space to buy €1 5 letre bottles of water and store them just in case.. no?
I have some 5l jugs for less than 2€ each in the garage/cellar and cycle through them regularly. Yes, this is easily doable.
Mate if there is a war, you will have bigger problems than emergency rations. However you should look more into what are the expected emergencies from natural causes in your area. Rivers overflooding, hillsides rolling down etc. Adjust based on that.
totally silly to prepare for at war. unless if you start it