What Europe needs is to resurrect the 1952 Defence Union 🇪🇺. Those plans were very advanced and include a European Army. Nato would effectively become a two-pillar organization; both pillars able to act together but also independently. This must also be democratically embedded within the EU. European Parliament made the first step last month with passing the resolution for a European Command and Control structure.
Thats certainly some prophecy/coming of age level long game being played here: you got a united Europe trying to arm itself again lead by Germany and France, soon only Germany. The world hates Israel now because of Gaza. Russians are stuck in a meat grinder on the eastern front.
BcDownes on
Considering the deputy posts have pretty much always been filled with a Brit theres just a way bigger chance of that happening.
Germany spending money isnt gonna inherently give France/UK/Poland any confidence in their ability to lead
augenwiehimmel on
Let’s get this straight, folks – they’re asking Germany to lead a bunch of well-trained, highly armed combat troops? Easy here.
BudSpencerCA on
Alle guten Dinge sind 3. Diesmal klappt’s aber auch wirklich.
snagsguiness on
That makes zero sense France or the UK makes much more sense
CaptchaSolvingRobot on
Wait.., I thought NATO was an alliance, not a hegemony…
mr_dexter_x on
Hot potato coming up!
r0w33 on
Most likely because Trump is also pushing hard to get AfD elected in Germany. So essentially, “the US control NATO”.
chrisni66 on
It’s pretty funny the way they’ve phrased this. It’s like they don’t realise that having an American General as SACE was always a concession that the Europeans had made…
It’s pretty obvious that this is just more of their attempt to withdraw from Europe. The Russians will be very happy if this ever actually happens.
lafarda on
Give us the keys to the american bases too if you don’t mind.
caeppers on
Does nobody read the article? Don’t fall for ragebait. This is about the dumbest title they could come up with considering the actual comments made.
No-Tomatillo3698 on
Just don’t let the Prussians inÂ
/s
nozendk on
Why do we even care at this point what they say we should do with NATO.
maracay1999 on
Sure, let’s give the military with mediocre operational-readiness, zero expeditionary ability, an extremely meek non-violent, anti-war contemporary culture, and zero nuclear weapons the keys to command the most powerful military alliance on the planet…..
Serious question: Why not France or UK?
Professional-Air2123 on
We could share Nato since USA wants out and would rather have a Russia take over Europe.
SmileAggravating9608 on
Did no one glance at the article? It says trump’s guy said he hopes they will be ready to take a turn as the supreme nato general one day, looks forward to that, but we’re not there yet.
DrDrWest on
This should become an European thing, don’t need our country to lead.
DarrensDodgyDenim on
Practically waiting for the Daily Express headlines: The Panzers are coming!
BalkanbaroqueBBQ on
Machen wir doch gerne. Ganz ohne Hintergedanken, Ehrenwort!
Cursusoo7 on
The United Kingdom has left the chat ….
Caramel-Foreign on
Man, watch for the British try fighting this off. Where’s me popcorn?
Worried-Joke-821 on
How about **finally** creating a powerful EU army and put them in charge?
Possible_Golf3180 on
The US should take over the White House back from pedophile horsefuckers
nathingz on
Trumps doing a lot of talking with Putin these days
toothbrush_user on
This administration is doing everything they can to sabotage and weaken the US, huh?
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Former_Star1081 on
It is a trap. Don’t fall for it.
farky84 on
What a clickbait…
The US wants Germany to take over the role of NATO Europe Commander from the US.
Nasudy on
Message de la France : non.
4tegon on
This is not Trump’s original idea. Even Obama wanted to shift focus from Europe to China.
US just can’t wage a war on 3 fronts (Russia, Iran, China). Europe should be capable on it’s own against Russia.
Drunken_pizza on
I don’t know if you guys are history buffs or not…
SF6block on
Rarely have I seen people with clear imperial ambitions score so many own goals because they’ve been intoxicated by their own propaganda, and therefore don’t understand how their own empire works.
SACEUR has always been an exclusively US position for a reason, and it’s not because the US loves to give away stuff for free.
Incidentally, DSACEUR has always been UK and a few times German for a reason, too.
DrStrangeleaf on
Good, we dont want fascists running the defence pact.
Naso_di_gatto on
Controversial, but still better than the US
Jensen1994 on
Trump trying to eradicate the last vestiges of US influence and power around the world….
NoPantsSantaClaus on
Germany to the rescue.Â
Again.Â
Brilliant-Gold8792 on
Poland sweating intensifies…
Franz__Ferdinand on
4th time is the charm.💀
SHITBLAST3000 on
This is literally giving away American military dominance.
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Some ancient dream becomes true lmao
What Europe needs is to resurrect the 1952 Defence Union 🇪🇺. Those plans were very advanced and include a European Army. Nato would effectively become a two-pillar organization; both pillars able to act together but also independently. This must also be democratically embedded within the EU. European Parliament made the first step last month with passing the resolution for a European Command and Control structure.
https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/1o2xein/european_parliament_agreed_on_a_resolution_for/
> Trump wants Germany to take over Nato
Quiet, piggy.
Thats certainly some prophecy/coming of age level long game being played here: you got a united Europe trying to arm itself again lead by Germany and France, soon only Germany. The world hates Israel now because of Gaza. Russians are stuck in a meat grinder on the eastern front.
Considering the deputy posts have pretty much always been filled with a Brit theres just a way bigger chance of that happening.
Germany spending money isnt gonna inherently give France/UK/Poland any confidence in their ability to lead
Let’s get this straight, folks – they’re asking Germany to lead a bunch of well-trained, highly armed combat troops? Easy here.
Alle guten Dinge sind 3. Diesmal klappt’s aber auch wirklich.
That makes zero sense France or the UK makes much more sense
Wait.., I thought NATO was an alliance, not a hegemony…
Hot potato coming up!
Most likely because Trump is also pushing hard to get AfD elected in Germany. So essentially, “the US control NATO”.
It’s pretty funny the way they’ve phrased this. It’s like they don’t realise that having an American General as SACE was always a concession that the Europeans had made…
It’s pretty obvious that this is just more of their attempt to withdraw from Europe. The Russians will be very happy if this ever actually happens.
Give us the keys to the american bases too if you don’t mind.
Does nobody read the article? Don’t fall for ragebait. This is about the dumbest title they could come up with considering the actual comments made.
Just don’t let the Prussians inÂ
/s
Why do we even care at this point what they say we should do with NATO.
Sure, let’s give the military with mediocre operational-readiness, zero expeditionary ability, an extremely meek non-violent, anti-war contemporary culture, and zero nuclear weapons the keys to command the most powerful military alliance on the planet…..
Serious question: Why not France or UK?
We could share Nato since USA wants out and would rather have a Russia take over Europe.
Did no one glance at the article? It says trump’s guy said he hopes they will be ready to take a turn as the supreme nato general one day, looks forward to that, but we’re not there yet.
This should become an European thing, don’t need our country to lead.
Practically waiting for the Daily Express headlines: The Panzers are coming!
Machen wir doch gerne. Ganz ohne Hintergedanken, Ehrenwort!
The United Kingdom has left the chat ….
Man, watch for the British try fighting this off. Where’s me popcorn?
How about **finally** creating a powerful EU army and put them in charge?
The US should take over the White House back from pedophile horsefuckers
Trumps doing a lot of talking with Putin these days
This administration is doing everything they can to sabotage and weaken the US, huh?
[deleted]
It is a trap. Don’t fall for it.
What a clickbait…
The US wants Germany to take over the role of NATO Europe Commander from the US.
Message de la France : non.
This is not Trump’s original idea. Even Obama wanted to shift focus from Europe to China.
US just can’t wage a war on 3 fronts (Russia, Iran, China). Europe should be capable on it’s own against Russia.
I don’t know if you guys are history buffs or not…
Rarely have I seen people with clear imperial ambitions score so many own goals because they’ve been intoxicated by their own propaganda, and therefore don’t understand how their own empire works.
SACEUR has always been an exclusively US position for a reason, and it’s not because the US loves to give away stuff for free.
Incidentally, DSACEUR has always been UK and a few times German for a reason, too.
Good, we dont want fascists running the defence pact.
Controversial, but still better than the US
Trump trying to eradicate the last vestiges of US influence and power around the world….
Germany to the rescue.Â
Again.Â
Poland sweating intensifies…
4th time is the charm.💀
This is literally giving away American military dominance.