>A whole generation of young people was badly let down by the last Tory government.
Pretty much and it’s going to be blamed on labour because getting a million young people into work is so easy.
peareauxThoughts on
Nothing like more government to solve the problems caused by government.
AvailableCap4127 on
From what I can see, a host of American companies bought up British businesses during the 2009 recession. They now offshore as much work as they can rather than hire graduates and apprentices because profits for shareholders and CEO bonuses are just bigger if you can get India or South African to do the work. The taxpayer pays local authorities to issue contracts where the profit goes abroad, and we don’t even have the benefits of training youngsters anymore. It’s an easy fix, introduce legislation to limit what can be offshored when it’s public money.
ice-lollies on
Maybe bring back careers advisors into school? I remember having to practice applying for jobs for work experience. Do schools still go through how to apply for jobs?
klepto_entropoid on
This is more like a massive cultural and social paradigm shift that has left generations, millions, completely severed from any genuine prospect of employment.
Technology and globalism has rapidly shifted the goal posts and education and the culture of the so called working class has not kept pace. I think if you look in to it they simply stopped trying to about a decade ago.
That said, not much to aspire to PAYE these days is there? You will give all your time, own nothing and be unhappy. I used to get mocked a lot when I worked in social services. I’ll never forget one night in a hostel a kid came in with about 3 grand in cash at 5 am and asked “What even is the point of you? All you do is open the door for me..”
He wasn’t wrong really.
Both-Mud-4362 on
No kidding the job centers current modus operandi is “give them a web portal of jobs, tell them tk apply for 2 a week – done” it doesn’t matter what job it is or if you are skilled for it. Half the time they dont check CVs or offer any other support. Its really depends on your local branch.
What they need to be doing is offering:
– CV and cover letter courses as soon as you sign up, no matter where you are.
– Provide interview practice.
– Provide access to free country recongnised courses & qualifications that will upskill people for a career they are capable of.
– Provide classes on expected clothing for the workplace of your career & interviews.
– Provide classes on social norms in the workplace. People need to know they have to leave their phones alone. That they have to be mindful of not being exist, racist, lGBTQ+ phobic, ablist, etc.
– Provide classes on workers rights e.g. must be paid for trial shifts, how probations work, mandatory break laws etc.
They need to provide more than £90 a week in benefits for job searching.
North_Attempt44 on
It’s a lot easier to find a job in a high growth, high productivity country. Labour should be laser focused on that.
Wrentanyl on
I remember when I left school back in 2015, the job centre was a genuinely helpful place. From my very first appointment there the person I spoke to went out of her way to help me find work. I’d get emails from her constantly with different jobs she’d found based on my qualifications and stuff and if I confirmed interest in said jobs she’d help me apply for them.
Fast forward to 2022 and I needed to make use of the job centre again. The experience couldn’t be any more different. The woman who was assigned to me this time basically just said ‘go find a job, and if you haven’t found one by next week’s meeting then I’ll help by just telling you to go find a job again’. I got no actual support, guidance or help. As far as she was concerned, as long as she was telling me to find a job and hanging the loss of UC over my head if I didn’t then she’d done what she was paid to do.
JacobL2000 on
I got a graduate scheme job in 2022, I lost the job in 2023. I worked there for 9 months. I ended up having to move back in with my parents and in debt. Also in a rural area. I applied for job seekers allowance but was told I’m not allowed it because I haven’t paid enough national insurance contributions. This really wound me up, I had to go into more debt to attend interviews. This made me get angry at other people who have never worked who seem to get every benefit under the sun.
Astriania on
Let’s maybe stop inviting hundreds of thousands of new people into the country who will compete for the entry level jobs that young people need (as well as the housing in the places with jobs which they also need).
SableSnail on
In my experience, careers advisors, the job centre and the like were all totally useless.
Better career advisors could help though, and starting from a younger age. I’d put a stronger focus in schools at looking at the employment and salary statistics of different career paths and how to pursue them.
Many kids give up on maths when perhaps they’d persist if they knew how valuable it can be. Many kids have no idea how you could become a plumber or electrician etc. or how well compensated they are.
By intervening early to better align their skills to the job market, we could create better outcomes for both employers and the students themselves.
Mikins85 on
Not to mention the fact that most of them wonder why they should bother. I’ve got 3 teenagers and one of them said to me she’s seen me and wife graft our arses off for years just to keep our heads above water and any job she gets wouldn’t even pay enough for her to move out unless she moved into a HMO.
Work doesn’t pay enough for most people to live solo anymore and companies ditch people off in a heartbeat for AI or because shareholder profits aren’t being hit. And a whole generation has grown up seeing this through social media and seeing people unboxing shit for a living and raking in more cash than any of us do, doing a proper job.
So they genuinely ask me, what is the point of them going out to work if they never see the benefits of their efforts?
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>A whole generation of young people was badly let down by the last Tory government.
Pretty much and it’s going to be blamed on labour because getting a million young people into work is so easy.
Nothing like more government to solve the problems caused by government.
From what I can see, a host of American companies bought up British businesses during the 2009 recession. They now offshore as much work as they can rather than hire graduates and apprentices because profits for shareholders and CEO bonuses are just bigger if you can get India or South African to do the work. The taxpayer pays local authorities to issue contracts where the profit goes abroad, and we don’t even have the benefits of training youngsters anymore. It’s an easy fix, introduce legislation to limit what can be offshored when it’s public money.
Maybe bring back careers advisors into school? I remember having to practice applying for jobs for work experience. Do schools still go through how to apply for jobs?
This is more like a massive cultural and social paradigm shift that has left generations, millions, completely severed from any genuine prospect of employment.
Technology and globalism has rapidly shifted the goal posts and education and the culture of the so called working class has not kept pace. I think if you look in to it they simply stopped trying to about a decade ago.
That said, not much to aspire to PAYE these days is there? You will give all your time, own nothing and be unhappy. I used to get mocked a lot when I worked in social services. I’ll never forget one night in a hostel a kid came in with about 3 grand in cash at 5 am and asked “What even is the point of you? All you do is open the door for me..”
He wasn’t wrong really.
No kidding the job centers current modus operandi is “give them a web portal of jobs, tell them tk apply for 2 a week – done” it doesn’t matter what job it is or if you are skilled for it. Half the time they dont check CVs or offer any other support. Its really depends on your local branch.
What they need to be doing is offering:
– CV and cover letter courses as soon as you sign up, no matter where you are.
– Provide interview practice.
– Provide access to free country recongnised courses & qualifications that will upskill people for a career they are capable of.
– Provide classes on expected clothing for the workplace of your career & interviews.
– Provide classes on social norms in the workplace. People need to know they have to leave their phones alone. That they have to be mindful of not being exist, racist, lGBTQ+ phobic, ablist, etc.
– Provide classes on workers rights e.g. must be paid for trial shifts, how probations work, mandatory break laws etc.
They need to provide more than £90 a week in benefits for job searching.
It’s a lot easier to find a job in a high growth, high productivity country. Labour should be laser focused on that.
I remember when I left school back in 2015, the job centre was a genuinely helpful place. From my very first appointment there the person I spoke to went out of her way to help me find work. I’d get emails from her constantly with different jobs she’d found based on my qualifications and stuff and if I confirmed interest in said jobs she’d help me apply for them.
Fast forward to 2022 and I needed to make use of the job centre again. The experience couldn’t be any more different. The woman who was assigned to me this time basically just said ‘go find a job, and if you haven’t found one by next week’s meeting then I’ll help by just telling you to go find a job again’. I got no actual support, guidance or help. As far as she was concerned, as long as she was telling me to find a job and hanging the loss of UC over my head if I didn’t then she’d done what she was paid to do.
I got a graduate scheme job in 2022, I lost the job in 2023. I worked there for 9 months. I ended up having to move back in with my parents and in debt. Also in a rural area. I applied for job seekers allowance but was told I’m not allowed it because I haven’t paid enough national insurance contributions. This really wound me up, I had to go into more debt to attend interviews. This made me get angry at other people who have never worked who seem to get every benefit under the sun.
Let’s maybe stop inviting hundreds of thousands of new people into the country who will compete for the entry level jobs that young people need (as well as the housing in the places with jobs which they also need).
In my experience, careers advisors, the job centre and the like were all totally useless.
Better career advisors could help though, and starting from a younger age. I’d put a stronger focus in schools at looking at the employment and salary statistics of different career paths and how to pursue them.
Many kids give up on maths when perhaps they’d persist if they knew how valuable it can be. Many kids have no idea how you could become a plumber or electrician etc. or how well compensated they are.
By intervening early to better align their skills to the job market, we could create better outcomes for both employers and the students themselves.
Not to mention the fact that most of them wonder why they should bother. I’ve got 3 teenagers and one of them said to me she’s seen me and wife graft our arses off for years just to keep our heads above water and any job she gets wouldn’t even pay enough for her to move out unless she moved into a HMO.
Work doesn’t pay enough for most people to live solo anymore and companies ditch people off in a heartbeat for AI or because shareholder profits aren’t being hit. And a whole generation has grown up seeing this through social media and seeing people unboxing shit for a living and raking in more cash than any of us do, doing a proper job.
So they genuinely ask me, what is the point of them going out to work if they never see the benefits of their efforts?