Gli stati membri dell’UE concordano sul monitoraggio volontario delle chat
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Gli stati membri dell’UE concordano sul monitoraggio volontario delle chat
di women_rules
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Translation
EU member states have agreed on a common position regarding chat monitoring. Internet services will be allowed to read communications voluntarily, but will not be obligated to do so. We are publishing the classified negotiation protocol and the draft legislation. Following the formal decision, the trilogue negotiations will begin.
The EU member states have agreed on a common position regarding chat monitoring. We are publishing the draft legislation .
Last week, the council’s working group discussed the bill. We are publishing the classified minutes of the meeting once again .
The Permanent Representatives plan to officially adopt the position tomorrow .
For three and a half years, EU institutions have been arguing about chat monitoring. The Commission wants to require internet services to scan their users’ content without cause for indications of criminal activity and to send this information to the authorities if there is suspicion
Parliament describes this as mass surveillance and demands that only unencrypted content from suspects be scanned.
A majority of EU member states want mandatory chat monitoring. However, a blocking minority opposes this. Now the Council has reached a compromise. Internet services will not be required to implement chat monitoring, but may conduct it voluntarily.
Absolute red lines
The Danish Presidency wants to get the draft law through the Council “as quickly as possible” so that “the trilogue negotiations can begin promptly.” Feedback from member states should be limited to “absolute red lines.”
The majority of states “supported the compromise proposal.” At least 15 voted in favor, including Germany and France.
Germany “welcomed both the removal of mandatory measures and the permanent anchoring of voluntary measures”.
Italy is also skeptical of voluntary chat monitoring. “There are concerns that the tool could be extended to other offenses, therefore there is difficulty in supporting the proposal.” Politicians have already called for chat monitoring to be extended to other content .
Absolute Minimal Consensus
Other states described the compromise as “an absolute minimum consensus.” They had “actually wanted more – especially in terms of commitments.” Some states “expressed clear disappointment with the cuts made.”
Spain, in particular, “still considered mandatory measures necessary, but unfortunately a comprehensive agreement on this was not possible.” Hungary, too, “considered voluntary measures alone insufficient.”
Spain, Hungary, and Bulgaria proposed “an obligation for providers to disclose at least in open areas.” The Danish Presidency of the Council “described the proposal as ambitious but did not adopt it in order to avoid further discussion.”
Denmark explicitly pointed to the review clause, stating that it “keeps open the possibility of issuing disclosure orders at a later date.” Hungary emphasized that “this possibility must also be exercised.”
No obligation
The Danish Presidency of the Council had publicly announced that chat monitoring would not be mandatory , but voluntary
The finalized compromise proposal was contradictory, however. She had removed the article on mandatory chat monitoring. Another article, however, stated that services should also implement voluntary measures.
Several states have questioned whether these formulations “could lead to a de facto obligation.” The legal services agreed: “The wording is open to interpretation in both directions.” The Council Presidency “clarified that the text contains only an obligation to mitigate risks, but not an obligation to detect them.”
The day after the meeting, the Council Presidency sent out what was likely the Council’s final draft legislation . It explicitly states : “No provision of this Regulation shall be interpreted as imposing disclosure obligations on suppliers.”
Harm and Abuse
Mandatory chat monitoring is not the only problem with the proposed law. Voluntary chat monitoring is also actually prohibited . The EU Commission cannot demonstrate its proportionality . Many reject voluntary chat monitoring, including the EU Commission , the European Data Protection Supervisor , and the German Data Protection Commissioner
A number of scientists criticize the compromise proposal . They describe voluntary chat monitoring as inappropriate. “Its benefits have not been proven, while the potential for harm and abuse is enormous.”
The law also mandates age verification. Scientists criticize this, arguing that age verification “carries an inherent and disproportionate risk of serious data protection violations and discrimination, without any guarantee of effectiveness.” The Federal Commissioner for Data Protection also fears a “far-reaching abolition of anonymity online . ”
Now the trilogue begins
The EU member states will not discuss these points further. The Danish Presidency “reaffirmed its commitment to the compromise proposal without the Spanish proposals”.
TomorrowNext week, the Permanent Representatives of the EU Member States will meet . In December, the Justice and Home Affairs Ministers will meet . These two bodies are expected to adopt the draft law as the official position of the Council
This is followed by the trilogue . There, the Commission, Parliament and Council negotiate to reach a compromise from their three separate draft laws.
Contact your representatives here https://fightchatcontrol.eu/
Disgusting.
*Medice, cura te ipsum*
Let’s start with more scrutiny over the politicians and administration.
Does anyone has a list of tech companys behind this?
the EU is now an even shittier version of the USA
Hope they change their mind
There was not supposed to be a vote on the 26th.
Absolute shit union
“How to turn people against the EU when support is already declining 101” must be a hot selling resource in Brussels.
So nothing changes in practice? Member states could technically do that even before then
What kind of words/expressions should we start using in every message to annoy the fuck out of those “monitors”?
EU bots will comment about how this is amazing and clap their hands because democracy is being enforced. People don’t realize all the bad shit EU is doing. This makes me depressed and doesn’t give me hope. They also started advertising the eID in Romania in a We happy few style, like “get them all now so we can perform surveillance easier after we’ve forced all this Orwellian bullshit through”. Do not give away your privacy for “safety” or convenience.
🆒🆒
so the politicans will be monitored too right?
Once you lay the infrastructure for voluntary capacity, the gap or jump to full capacity is reduced.
One step at a time.
I assume companies have to disclose this, right?
I refuse to use any service that tries this shit.
Oooft.
Fuck this shit
time to get out like the brits did, before this kraken brings us all down together.
Burn the EU to the ground, revolution is the only solution.
Make politicians afraid of the people again
oh boi cant wait for 10 years when we’re all being dragged off in black vans without trial for joking about our PMs
/s
Ridiculous. They don’t have even the balls to sustain the law publicly…
Great let’s just “encourage” everyone to fundamentally break encryption, and just hope no one abuses it to accelerate our fall into autoritarianism. Good thing the political climate is so good, I could be worried…
Those people belong in prison. This is criminally insane, or deliberate.
I wont let no one read what i talk about even if is about cooking.
FUCK Denmark.
All we can hope is that this gets neutered in the trilateral talks and that the leftovers are mercy killed by the EUCJ.
not a single voter who got these people to power voted for this btw
Yay! I *love* social credit systems and mass surveillance!
What the f is “voluntary” chat monitoring? Who is going to volunteer for free spyware?
Well, now we know Ashton Kutcher and Demi Moore are traitors to humanity. Burn any movies you have with them.
Funny, in a ”union” where some countries put minors in prison. So much for children!
Fucking hell. This is still unacceptable.
A half glass of water mixed with half a glass of poison is still poison, that’s all there is to say about this proposal.
We gotta ramp up now. Don’t let them take an inch toward authoritarianism!
A bunch of motherfuckers serving the interests of Zion and getting screwed… but they like it… by other superpowers