Bringing in unlimited people should solve this problem.
Desperate_Caramel_10 on
Housing is the new political battleground and Labour seem to be the only party taking it seriously.
Reform just want to chase out immigrants and moan about asylum seekers.
HypnoZack flat out refused to build houses ‘in the countryside’ which is Green party code for no houses built at all.
Libdems and tories… Well you can’t trust either of them can you really after last time.
JackStrawWitchita on
This is the key phrase:
“Crawley Council said 2,500 households were on its housing waiting list, and it **spent £2 in every £3 it collected in council tax on temporary accommodation**.”
Huge percentages of all of our council tax bills are being spent on temporary accommodation. Landlords are raking in huge amounts of cash renting substandard ‘emergency flats’ to desperate people and the council pays the bill.
And for reasons that I can’t fathom, councils aren’t seizing disused property or building new council homes as they appear to prefer throwing huge amounts of council tax at landlords indefinitely. Should we start to look at the relationships between council decision makers and landlords?
Designer-Vanilla-139 on
In quite the pickle aren’t we. Not enough people having babies, due to the insane cost of living that the government can’t seem to properly acknowledge so we’re allowing heaps of men into the country but at the same time we don’t have enough homes to house these men.
-info-sec- on
Why is this a council problem?
So what are all these people doing about it?
1. Education
2. Upskilling.
3. Working many jobs.
4. Just complaining about it.
Thetonn on
I grew up in the same county as the person described in the top of the article. I had to move away because I couldn’t afford to live in the area. I am now a higher rate taxpayer and a home owner, but I still couldn’t afford to live there. I also wouldn’t have kids at the moment because the house I can sustain couldn’t support them despite wanting a family. I think my experience was reflected by most of my friends growing up, none of whom still live there unless they inherited property from their parents. We’ve all had to go out and make it on our own, and if we become millionaires, we might end up back there someday.
I struggle quite a bit with the idea that the answer is to create a protected class of welfare recipients who are insulated from this reality. I think, if you want the state to give you housing, it is reasonable for that to be provided where it is affordable, not where you want to live.
That is the reality I face.
cozywit on
Hard to have sympathy when those working hard are increasingly struggling to pay their own rent/mortgage.
Jurassic_Bun on
Councils should be back building and owning a lot of the housing being built.
Let the council decide if a house will be sold or retained as social housing but put in requirements on a percentage to population/earning retained.
Would be nice if the UK could densify some of its housing. We seem to struggle with the concept of apartments. I feel like we have some of the worst purpose built apartments in the world, dark, small and lacking convenient functions.
Believe it or not but the average uk apartment is 10m smaller than a Japanese one. I think housing in general needs a bit of a reimagine but especially apartments.
It’s a problem in smaller cities where previous social housing has been sold, or the ones left are inconvenient and rough with ever decreasing services.
It would be nice to densify some social housing around the city centres. I get it the country hates poor people and doesn’t want to see them but allowing them easier and cheaper access to the city centre can do a lot for them and the local economy.
In my city it’s like most social housing is hidden away (likely by design) 2 hours walk to the city centre, served by a single bus route spread across about 2 bus stops. Access is terrible and it becomes this self isolation perpetual cycle of misery. Any social housing that was near the centre has been sold or converted into student housing or some business space. It’s no wonder small city businesses and markets are struggling. They lost pretty much every level of customer.
achillea4 on
Selling off council property at a huge discount and not building new housing stock was such a great idea. Private landlords are raking it in.
Average_sheep1411 on
The fact that two parent households are depending on social housing to house them is the problem. I have family who have subsided housing until they die, they earn more then me but the rent is half of mine. They regularly tell me I need to work more so I can have what they have, not realising them paying only 50% of my rent gives them a unfair advantage. My job sent round an email stating they need to approve second jobs now.
fen90der on
Impartial journalism would be to make a meme of this guy and point out what a wanker he obviously is.
Also all of the people who edit these newspapers also live in £2m+ ‘totally normal family homes’ so let’s all just remember that when reading their little opinions in the ‘news’.
humanhedgehog on
This is so wasteful. The poor people get crap accommodation, and the councils spend a fortune. This then prevents spending on building because the money isn’t there. (See also – transport for SEND kids, rather than more SEND schooling, housing asylum seekers rather than paying qualified staff to assess their claims… )
Harry98376 on
All those builders and technicians coming over from France will soon alleviate this problem.🙃
GallusRedhead on
Temporary accommodation is a poverty trap. Once you’re in temp accommodation you can rarely keep working or start working if you’re not already as you’ll be expected to pay most/all of the rent, even though it’s massively inflated as temporary accommodation. I knew a family who were in a 3 bed temp flat. Two adult daughters (18 and 19) and a mum who had terminal cancer. As mum was the tenant and disabled, she got help to pay the rent. When she died (family still in temp accommodation), both daughters took on the tenancy instead but the rent was about £2k per month. Thankfully both girls were working full time so they could cover it between them but they had little left after bills etc. and thankfully they were rehoused a few months later. But you can see how this would be impossible for a single parent to manage on their own. (For reference the average rent for a similar property would be £800-1100 private renting, but there are very few available).
ABCDOMG on
Should never have allowed Thatcher to sell off council housing. Fucked it all
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Bringing in unlimited people should solve this problem.
Housing is the new political battleground and Labour seem to be the only party taking it seriously.
Reform just want to chase out immigrants and moan about asylum seekers.
HypnoZack flat out refused to build houses ‘in the countryside’ which is Green party code for no houses built at all.
Libdems and tories… Well you can’t trust either of them can you really after last time.
This is the key phrase:
“Crawley Council said 2,500 households were on its housing waiting list, and it **spent £2 in every £3 it collected in council tax on temporary accommodation**.”
Huge percentages of all of our council tax bills are being spent on temporary accommodation. Landlords are raking in huge amounts of cash renting substandard ‘emergency flats’ to desperate people and the council pays the bill.
And for reasons that I can’t fathom, councils aren’t seizing disused property or building new council homes as they appear to prefer throwing huge amounts of council tax at landlords indefinitely. Should we start to look at the relationships between council decision makers and landlords?
In quite the pickle aren’t we. Not enough people having babies, due to the insane cost of living that the government can’t seem to properly acknowledge so we’re allowing heaps of men into the country but at the same time we don’t have enough homes to house these men.
Why is this a council problem?
So what are all these people doing about it?
1. Education
2. Upskilling.
3. Working many jobs.
4. Just complaining about it.
I grew up in the same county as the person described in the top of the article. I had to move away because I couldn’t afford to live in the area. I am now a higher rate taxpayer and a home owner, but I still couldn’t afford to live there. I also wouldn’t have kids at the moment because the house I can sustain couldn’t support them despite wanting a family. I think my experience was reflected by most of my friends growing up, none of whom still live there unless they inherited property from their parents. We’ve all had to go out and make it on our own, and if we become millionaires, we might end up back there someday.
I struggle quite a bit with the idea that the answer is to create a protected class of welfare recipients who are insulated from this reality. I think, if you want the state to give you housing, it is reasonable for that to be provided where it is affordable, not where you want to live.
That is the reality I face.
Hard to have sympathy when those working hard are increasingly struggling to pay their own rent/mortgage.
Councils should be back building and owning a lot of the housing being built.
Let the council decide if a house will be sold or retained as social housing but put in requirements on a percentage to population/earning retained.
Would be nice if the UK could densify some of its housing. We seem to struggle with the concept of apartments. I feel like we have some of the worst purpose built apartments in the world, dark, small and lacking convenient functions.
Believe it or not but the average uk apartment is 10m smaller than a Japanese one. I think housing in general needs a bit of a reimagine but especially apartments.
It’s a problem in smaller cities where previous social housing has been sold, or the ones left are inconvenient and rough with ever decreasing services.
It would be nice to densify some social housing around the city centres. I get it the country hates poor people and doesn’t want to see them but allowing them easier and cheaper access to the city centre can do a lot for them and the local economy.
In my city it’s like most social housing is hidden away (likely by design) 2 hours walk to the city centre, served by a single bus route spread across about 2 bus stops. Access is terrible and it becomes this self isolation perpetual cycle of misery. Any social housing that was near the centre has been sold or converted into student housing or some business space. It’s no wonder small city businesses and markets are struggling. They lost pretty much every level of customer.
Selling off council property at a huge discount and not building new housing stock was such a great idea. Private landlords are raking it in.
The fact that two parent households are depending on social housing to house them is the problem. I have family who have subsided housing until they die, they earn more then me but the rent is half of mine. They regularly tell me I need to work more so I can have what they have, not realising them paying only 50% of my rent gives them a unfair advantage. My job sent round an email stating they need to approve second jobs now.
Impartial journalism would be to make a meme of this guy and point out what a wanker he obviously is.
Also all of the people who edit these newspapers also live in £2m+ ‘totally normal family homes’ so let’s all just remember that when reading their little opinions in the ‘news’.
This is so wasteful. The poor people get crap accommodation, and the councils spend a fortune. This then prevents spending on building because the money isn’t there. (See also – transport for SEND kids, rather than more SEND schooling, housing asylum seekers rather than paying qualified staff to assess their claims… )
All those builders and technicians coming over from France will soon alleviate this problem.🙃
Temporary accommodation is a poverty trap. Once you’re in temp accommodation you can rarely keep working or start working if you’re not already as you’ll be expected to pay most/all of the rent, even though it’s massively inflated as temporary accommodation. I knew a family who were in a 3 bed temp flat. Two adult daughters (18 and 19) and a mum who had terminal cancer. As mum was the tenant and disabled, she got help to pay the rent. When she died (family still in temp accommodation), both daughters took on the tenancy instead but the rent was about £2k per month. Thankfully both girls were working full time so they could cover it between them but they had little left after bills etc. and thankfully they were rehoused a few months later. But you can see how this would be impossible for a single parent to manage on their own. (For reference the average rent for a similar property would be £800-1100 private renting, but there are very few available).
Should never have allowed Thatcher to sell off council housing. Fucked it all