Where I grew up had 8 pubs for a population of about 100-120 people in the immediate area. The same 3/4 lads were keeping each of those pubs alive as they all had their favourites. They’d all be full maybe once or twice a year for Christmas and the odd day like Paddy’s day. There was another village with about 10 pubs a ten minute drive away. None of that was ever sustainable.
dropthecoin on
Pubs aren’t vanishing from rural towns. We just have fewer now because for too long there were far too many pubs and little else. Nowadays most rural towns have a few pubs, restaurants and a mix of both.
Bill_Badbody on
The amount of rural pubs that we had were only sustainable because they were owner occupiers.
Once they have to pay for rent and staff, they in the main became unsustainable.
DaCor_ie on
Unpopular opinion – rural pubs (& shops, schools, GAA clubs, post offices etc etc) would be better off if one-off housing was never allowed and instead all rural housing was centralised in the towns and villages instead of feckin fields down back roads
Separate-Sand2034 on
Ah yes, thriving rural Ireland
BakeParty5648 on
Tbf Tralee is still absolutely milled with pubs
Vivid_Ice_2755 on
Maybe It’s a good thing. The worst drug of them all is becoming less important to us .
hmmm_ on
On the one hand it’s a pity, on the other hand I’m not sure what can be done given people’s habits have changed.
I do think we need a few more pubs/restaurants in the city suburbs of Dublin – lots of areas with new housing have very little other than perhaps a bland Costa or Centra.
sealedtrain on
Surprised the pensions funds haven’t. Ought them up like in the UK
LimerickJim on
I am always amazed at the glaring omission of a huge cause of this downturn: Tinder (and similar apps). The biological imperative to meet someone is often the primary reason young people go out to pubs and clubs. The apps let them meet someone without the awkwardness of yelling at someone you fancy in a night club. As a result Zoomers don’t get in the habit of going drinking to the same degree as past generations.
Silantro-89 on
Don’t even drink but I imagine the fact a crate of drink is much cheaper in a shop than buying a round of drinks has something to do with it. Whenever I’m at the shop there is always someone in line buying some alcohol.
gerhudire on
My dad’s local has permanently closed after 50+ years. Its been turned into apartments.
Beginning-Strain4660 on
1990s Same here 5 pubs and 3 shops and a post office in small village. 400 people maybe
Today 0 pubs, 0 shops, 0 post office
Very hard for people to meet and connect nowadays, very isolated
AdjectiveNoun1337 on
I don’t mind seeing fewer pubs, but it’s not like they’re being replaced by anything. Drive through a rural town and instead of pubs, you’ll see… derelict pubs.
Or fast food restaurants.
scutter_vortex on
The pubs that are left are doing grand while performatively tutting about the coke use that’s keeping them in business.
Another price hike anyone? 🍻
Willing-Departure115 on
Data from last year, so some pubs will have closed… but even with the number of closures up to that point, we remain 3rd in the world for number of pubs per head of population. We have an over saturation of pubs in an era when people are drinking less. It’s not rocket science or some big conspiracy.
Pubs shutting down = net benefit to society.
Build community centers and sports halls for community activities.
BlackTree78910 on
7 pubs in our rural village 16 years ago, only 3 nowadays. Not much of a drinker myself either.
hosepipe00 on
Vape shops and Turkish barbers have taken over
MuffledApplause on
The culture of day drinking is dying (the ould lads are literally dying and not being replaced), that coupled with rising costs and younger generations not drinking near as much as previous ones is the reason the pubs are struggling. The ones who make an effort with food and entertainment will survive, a pub has to offer more now to get the numbers in.
Previous-Comment-552 on
No bad thing if you think of pubs as drug dealers. They’ve become the placeholder for community but they don’t own it and you could argue that they undermine it. I like to think this is happening because people are better aware of the risks and better able to amuse themselves these days.
chimpdoctor on
People just dont drink like they used to. Pubs are full over the weekend but empty during the week. Maybe they need to diversify the use of the space.
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We don’t drink. Life is good now
Where I grew up had 8 pubs for a population of about 100-120 people in the immediate area. The same 3/4 lads were keeping each of those pubs alive as they all had their favourites. They’d all be full maybe once or twice a year for Christmas and the odd day like Paddy’s day. There was another village with about 10 pubs a ten minute drive away. None of that was ever sustainable.
Pubs aren’t vanishing from rural towns. We just have fewer now because for too long there were far too many pubs and little else. Nowadays most rural towns have a few pubs, restaurants and a mix of both.
The amount of rural pubs that we had were only sustainable because they were owner occupiers.
Once they have to pay for rent and staff, they in the main became unsustainable.
Unpopular opinion – rural pubs (& shops, schools, GAA clubs, post offices etc etc) would be better off if one-off housing was never allowed and instead all rural housing was centralised in the towns and villages instead of feckin fields down back roads
Ah yes, thriving rural Ireland
Tbf Tralee is still absolutely milled with pubs
Maybe It’s a good thing. The worst drug of them all is becoming less important to us .
On the one hand it’s a pity, on the other hand I’m not sure what can be done given people’s habits have changed.
I do think we need a few more pubs/restaurants in the city suburbs of Dublin – lots of areas with new housing have very little other than perhaps a bland Costa or Centra.
Surprised the pensions funds haven’t. Ought them up like in the UK
I am always amazed at the glaring omission of a huge cause of this downturn: Tinder (and similar apps). The biological imperative to meet someone is often the primary reason young people go out to pubs and clubs. The apps let them meet someone without the awkwardness of yelling at someone you fancy in a night club. As a result Zoomers don’t get in the habit of going drinking to the same degree as past generations.
Don’t even drink but I imagine the fact a crate of drink is much cheaper in a shop than buying a round of drinks has something to do with it. Whenever I’m at the shop there is always someone in line buying some alcohol.
My dad’s local has permanently closed after 50+ years. Its been turned into apartments.
1990s Same here 5 pubs and 3 shops and a post office in small village. 400 people maybe
Today 0 pubs, 0 shops, 0 post office
Very hard for people to meet and connect nowadays, very isolated
I don’t mind seeing fewer pubs, but it’s not like they’re being replaced by anything. Drive through a rural town and instead of pubs, you’ll see… derelict pubs.
Or fast food restaurants.
The pubs that are left are doing grand while performatively tutting about the coke use that’s keeping them in business.
Another price hike anyone? 🍻
Data from last year, so some pubs will have closed… but even with the number of closures up to that point, we remain 3rd in the world for number of pubs per head of population. We have an over saturation of pubs in an era when people are drinking less. It’s not rocket science or some big conspiracy.
[https://www.thejournal.ie/alcohol-distance-ireland-6356237-Apr2024/](https://www.thejournal.ie/alcohol-distance-ireland-6356237-Apr2024/)
Pubs shutting down = net benefit to society.
Build community centers and sports halls for community activities.
7 pubs in our rural village 16 years ago, only 3 nowadays. Not much of a drinker myself either.
Vape shops and Turkish barbers have taken over
The culture of day drinking is dying (the ould lads are literally dying and not being replaced), that coupled with rising costs and younger generations not drinking near as much as previous ones is the reason the pubs are struggling. The ones who make an effort with food and entertainment will survive, a pub has to offer more now to get the numbers in.
No bad thing if you think of pubs as drug dealers. They’ve become the placeholder for community but they don’t own it and you could argue that they undermine it. I like to think this is happening because people are better aware of the risks and better able to amuse themselves these days.
People just dont drink like they used to. Pubs are full over the weekend but empty during the week. Maybe they need to diversify the use of the space.