I shared a version of this guide earlier this year, but felt a website was needed to unpack the different options fully. So after an unreasonable number of hours, I put together the necessary data and website.
I hope this is digestible enough for the average person to help those looking to take that first step, or for people who are equally passionate and want to get their friends or family involved.
Every time I post these guides, there is always feedback on things that can improve, or I got wrong. Please do share, as it is the best way for these to evolve
WinterHeaven on
Linux and gaming. Tried pop os and none of my games was really working. Also my mouse and keyboard were not supported :/ .. sadly not an option yet
mrx_101 on
Why would you move from one of 3 US browsers to another US browser (Firefox), same question for a few others in the list.
SinCanDory on
For Linux, I would add OpenSuse Tumbleweed. Also I like the idea behind Zen Browser but I heard it has quite a lot of hiccups, not there yet. At least for Windows
oimson on
Privacy and EU-based, good one
Hezron_ruth on
This is a good guide, the website is a very nice addition. I have multiple questions, suggestions and criticism, but I will also say that I take my hat off to you for actually doing it and committing the time.
SBR404 on
What is with they Grey stuff and why is for example vivaldi Grey?
the1mrx on
Spotify should be on the list to boycott, not switch to.
BuxtonWater1 on
There are a few questionable alternatives in the list, but at this point the only US based tech I still use are Firefox, Signal, and DuckDuckGo.
hmtk1976 on
Yet still no alternative for the full Microsift stack. Someone should really pour money into developing a true competitor.
p_fief_martin on
I find that pretending that it is a matter of weeks is disingenuous. Some migrations are super long projects. Like immich. You just don’t install the app and go. You need to know how to run this stuff safely so you don’t lose your data. Same for file storage. You might need a NAS, delve into self hosting, understand trade offs, etc…
On another note Deezer might be originally French but it is not french owners anymore, I believe they’re from the Americas now.
Lord_Waldemar on
I’m already mostly there, the biggest hurdles are mobile OS like Android and iOS, web videos (the creators I follow are mostly exclusively on YouTube) and Steam. I have games on gog.com (would be a nice addition to this list btw) but still a huge library that I’ll never get off there except buying all the games elsewhere if they are available at all
TheoryOfDevolution on
You should post this on Lemmy instead of Reddit. Reddit is American.
Awyls on
I support using European alternatives but.. aside from Spotify, the difference in quality between the main products and European alternatives is genuinely insulting to even suggest it. Comically enough most viable alternatives are also American (Firefox, DuckDuckGo, Signal).
rightpolis on
What about the alternative for Reddit?
EmergencyAtTheIKEA on
There needs to be discussion about domination of Visa and MasterCard in financial systems. Domination of American big tech in the cloud sphere. And their monopoly in software ecosystem. It’s not just about a random browser or something tbh, there are far more critical areas where this needs to start.
Lysek8 on
I support European alternatives but many of these are just laughable. Plus, don’t assume because they’re European they’re nice. Cutthroat businesses are not exactly endemic to north America, and we have loooots of examples here
IyadHunter-Thylacine on
Out of curiosity what didn’t you put brave as an alternative to Chrome, Safari, ect
For os couldn’t you put arch Linux too
Edit: saw you actually did put brave but you also put opera which to my knowledge (could be wrong) they have a bad privacy record now that they are owned by a Chinese company (since 2016)
yes_u_suckk on
When it comes to online drive and photo/video hosting I would like to suggest a self hosted alternative, as well.
NAS devices became very accessible in the last few years. With around €200 you can buy one and install apps like Immich as a replacement for Google Photos and choose one of the many Google Drive/Dropbox alternatives that run on NAS devices.
I did this a few months ago and I couldn’t be happier.
Grabot on
Why switch from a US messenger app to another US messenger app? There are European alternatives, like [Brocast](https://Brocast.nl)
prueba_hola on
openSUSE > Ubuntu
snowExZe on
Operating system…? Ubuntu? First off all it’s a British company (Canonical) not EU and why prefer a company that needs to get revenue over a distro that’s completely maintained by the public and not backed by some million dollar company
goabbear on
Always see ProtonMail as an option because they have a good marketing service, but you can also add Infomaniak mail as a viable alternative.
mrmiwani on
Sweet, have done most of that or at least have build redundancy 🙂
Pomidorka1515 on
for music just pirate it and download everything locally
clouds_visitor on
I think as a replacement for drive a very worthy mention is MEGA.
greasemonk3 on
Ecosia has a browser these days but it’s chromium based, so not sure if it counts
vodamark on
It’s weird to see Pop OS recommended for gaming, when Bazzite is the most trendy gaming linux distro right now.
Legado_des_pleiades on
Week 5: I could recommend Audioteka, which is a Polish company afaik.
oneawesomewave on
What about Reddit?
Loopbloc on
Actually our friends from Germany are blocking signups with Eastern European IPs. I am all for “European” tech, but this is funny.
jakajakka on
This only shows how pathetic the EU tech industry is
moonjabes on
My only problem with Signal is that it requires you to have people’s phone number, and I really really hate having to have people’s phone number in order to text them. The big benefit of Messenger is that I can text people without having their phone number.
djingo_dango on
Europe needs more builders. You should use European products because they are the best in their category not purely because of ideological reasons. You need more builders and entrepreneurs for that
nosense52 on
People can’t fully comply with this boycott list, some services like Whatsapp, Google Suite and Microsoft suite are crucial for everything we do.
And i use proton, firefox etc…
debackerl on
To replace Microsoft Office, I would also advise Collabora Office, based in UK, or ONLYOFFICE, based in Latvia.
To replace Windows for gaming, I would advise a more popular option, Bazzite, which is a pure community effort (no company).
LeviJr00 on
The social media part is VERY dependent on how many people agree to change it. I mean, I have all my contacts on Messenger and Instagram, and I don’t know if it’s possible to convince my friends and family to switch. And if they don’t switch, why should I?
HovercraftPlen6576 on
Just a note, because something is an EU product, that doesn’t make it ethical.
Shliopanec on
Questionable choice to put spotify here
doomguy0184 on
You should just quit cancer media all together lol
Southern_Bowl_8265 on
Just to add to this, Proton Drive has a capability that can replace Google Photos, that works in a very similar way. Also, Proton recently released Proton Sheets, which in addition to Proton Docs, replaces 2 of the 3 core M365 solutions.
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I shared a version of this guide earlier this year, but felt a website was needed to unpack the different options fully. So after an unreasonable number of hours, I put together the necessary data and website.
I hope this is digestible enough for the average person to help those looking to take that first step, or for people who are equally passionate and want to get their friends or family involved.
Details:
* Site – [https://purchasewithpurpose.io/](https://purchasewithpurpose.io/)
* Code – [https://codeberg.org/purchase-with-purpose/pwp-website](https://codeberg.org/purchase-with-purpose/pwp-website)
* Hosted by [https://www.statichost.eu/](https://www.statichost.eu/)
Every time I post these guides, there is always feedback on things that can improve, or I got wrong. Please do share, as it is the best way for these to evolve
Linux and gaming. Tried pop os and none of my games was really working. Also my mouse and keyboard were not supported :/ .. sadly not an option yet
Why would you move from one of 3 US browsers to another US browser (Firefox), same question for a few others in the list.
For Linux, I would add OpenSuse Tumbleweed. Also I like the idea behind Zen Browser but I heard it has quite a lot of hiccups, not there yet. At least for Windows
Privacy and EU-based, good one
This is a good guide, the website is a very nice addition. I have multiple questions, suggestions and criticism, but I will also say that I take my hat off to you for actually doing it and committing the time.
What is with they Grey stuff and why is for example vivaldi Grey?
Spotify should be on the list to boycott, not switch to.
There are a few questionable alternatives in the list, but at this point the only US based tech I still use are Firefox, Signal, and DuckDuckGo.
Yet still no alternative for the full Microsift stack. Someone should really pour money into developing a true competitor.
I find that pretending that it is a matter of weeks is disingenuous. Some migrations are super long projects. Like immich. You just don’t install the app and go. You need to know how to run this stuff safely so you don’t lose your data. Same for file storage. You might need a NAS, delve into self hosting, understand trade offs, etc…
On another note Deezer might be originally French but it is not french owners anymore, I believe they’re from the Americas now.
I’m already mostly there, the biggest hurdles are mobile OS like Android and iOS, web videos (the creators I follow are mostly exclusively on YouTube) and Steam. I have games on gog.com (would be a nice addition to this list btw) but still a huge library that I’ll never get off there except buying all the games elsewhere if they are available at all
You should post this on Lemmy instead of Reddit. Reddit is American.
I support using European alternatives but.. aside from Spotify, the difference in quality between the main products and European alternatives is genuinely insulting to even suggest it. Comically enough most viable alternatives are also American (Firefox, DuckDuckGo, Signal).
What about the alternative for Reddit?
There needs to be discussion about domination of Visa and MasterCard in financial systems. Domination of American big tech in the cloud sphere. And their monopoly in software ecosystem. It’s not just about a random browser or something tbh, there are far more critical areas where this needs to start.
I support European alternatives but many of these are just laughable. Plus, don’t assume because they’re European they’re nice. Cutthroat businesses are not exactly endemic to north America, and we have loooots of examples here
Out of curiosity what didn’t you put brave as an alternative to Chrome, Safari, ect
For os couldn’t you put arch Linux too
Edit: saw you actually did put brave but you also put opera which to my knowledge (could be wrong) they have a bad privacy record now that they are owned by a Chinese company (since 2016)
When it comes to online drive and photo/video hosting I would like to suggest a self hosted alternative, as well.
NAS devices became very accessible in the last few years. With around €200 you can buy one and install apps like Immich as a replacement for Google Photos and choose one of the many Google Drive/Dropbox alternatives that run on NAS devices.
I did this a few months ago and I couldn’t be happier.
Why switch from a US messenger app to another US messenger app? There are European alternatives, like [Brocast](https://Brocast.nl)
openSUSE > Ubuntu
Operating system…? Ubuntu? First off all it’s a British company (Canonical) not EU and why prefer a company that needs to get revenue over a distro that’s completely maintained by the public and not backed by some million dollar company
Always see ProtonMail as an option because they have a good marketing service, but you can also add Infomaniak mail as a viable alternative.
Sweet, have done most of that or at least have build redundancy 🙂
for music just pirate it and download everything locally
I think as a replacement for drive a very worthy mention is MEGA.
Ecosia has a browser these days but it’s chromium based, so not sure if it counts
It’s weird to see Pop OS recommended for gaming, when Bazzite is the most trendy gaming linux distro right now.
Week 5: I could recommend Audioteka, which is a Polish company afaik.
What about Reddit?
Actually our friends from Germany are blocking signups with Eastern European IPs. I am all for “European” tech, but this is funny.
This only shows how pathetic the EU tech industry is
My only problem with Signal is that it requires you to have people’s phone number, and I really really hate having to have people’s phone number in order to text them. The big benefit of Messenger is that I can text people without having their phone number.
Europe needs more builders. You should use European products because they are the best in their category not purely because of ideological reasons. You need more builders and entrepreneurs for that
People can’t fully comply with this boycott list, some services like Whatsapp, Google Suite and Microsoft suite are crucial for everything we do.
And i use proton, firefox etc…
To replace Microsoft Office, I would also advise Collabora Office, based in UK, or ONLYOFFICE, based in Latvia.
To replace Windows for gaming, I would advise a more popular option, Bazzite, which is a pure community effort (no company).
The social media part is VERY dependent on how many people agree to change it. I mean, I have all my contacts on Messenger and Instagram, and I don’t know if it’s possible to convince my friends and family to switch. And if they don’t switch, why should I?
Just a note, because something is an EU product, that doesn’t make it ethical.
Questionable choice to put spotify here
You should just quit cancer media all together lol
Just to add to this, Proton Drive has a capability that can replace Google Photos, that works in a very similar way. Also, Proton recently released Proton Sheets, which in addition to Proton Docs, replaces 2 of the 3 core M365 solutions.