Kinda feel like we’ve been saying this for at least three generations…
Ancient-Voice-9525 on
I think you’re about 20 years too late mate. We already have a lost generation that’re trying desperately to buy their first home right now. Nice to see that maybe the kids will have it a little better though.
Antique_Historian_74 on
Why do I think this plan will inevitably involve further sacrificing the futures of the young in service of pensioners.
What we reckoning, mandatory national service in care homes, all education is now loan based, a kibbutz program for the young progressives?
JackStrawWitchita on
Thats an odd way to phrase ‘we’re going to remove benefits from young people to force them to take care home jobs’…
PrrrromotionGiven1 on
It’s impossible without taking at least some power and privilege away from the boomers, which you already proved you are unwilling to do with the winter fuel allowance.
TheDeflatables on
The kids that were going through school during COVID lockdowns have already been long fucked over unfortunately Kier.
Now its time to learn from mistakes, and help those that have already been hurt
VamosFicar on
“Grandad, Where you a part of the Starmer Youth during the war?”
Rich-Astronomer7937 on
Kier Starmer saying this as the government is investing in AI to replace those same young people’s future jobs
setokaiba22 on
Not in that bracket now but too late. I’m lost after graduating after the crash tbh.
appletinicyclone on
The advantage of a liberal democracy is that you can or have to quickly adapt to the needs of the people or you’ll get voted out.
The disadvantage is that you can’t root out systemic problems except by consent of successive governments and so therefore are generally short termist.
The clusterF of financial crisis Austerity Brexit Ukraine Covid Brexit Austerity Debt crisis wealth inequality mh depression is not fixed in 5 years, it’s takes something like 15-20 years to do. (Maybe more)
Young people do not have much of a stake in society. The things that matter to them like climate change or having disposable income, going to University, having a irl social life that’s fulfilling, are worse options all the time compared to the immediately previous generations.
Ofcourse they will be demotivated, that’s why all the crypto and skool online and scam and grift and education course MLM stuff got so popular
The idea of 50 (probably increasing to 60) years work for a pension pot that will be gutted by inflation does not appeal whatsoever
And who can blame them?
Serberou5 on
I’m 50 and will likely be made redundant next year. I fear I will never work again and be forced to just rot away on UC barely scraping by. My industry (retail) is dying and I have only ever worked in that sector. I’m still glad I’m not a young person though as at least I’m being thrown on the scrapheap at a more appropriate age….
yellowsapphire88 on
Leave our private pensions alone and let us save for retirement in peace, that’d help a lot!
ohmyblahblah on
How about making it affordable to actually have some kind of nice life ?
sonny0jim on
If the words chosen are deliberate, I’m not sure how I entirely feel.
Sure my generation, the one before and the one after have been left in the dust, but I refuse to have the same mentality as the current pensioners, or wealthy have, so I’m ok with some of my resources being diverted to flourish young people’s lives.
But saying ‘trusted adult’, and ‘government programme’ rubs me a little weird. If it was investment into community run community centre with subsidized food and drink, that’s one thing, to improve local community cohesion. If it was a sort of inter UK student exchange programme so those in deprived areas can mingle with those in more well off areas, that works, sort of like how NCS is/was.
All forms of the government ASSISTING in community self sufficiency, and cohesion, but making sure there’s a trusted adult as if there’s going to be a social services rep to go to for your problems, or a government programme in the broad sense.. sounds like a way for money to be siphoned, the government to sound like they are offering something but no one wants it or to implement its agenda. I’m going for the latter given the trajectory of national ID’s, online control, and messaging snooping it’s tried. It doesn’t want to work for a community, it wants its thumb under it.
LordLucian on
It’s not just the latest gen alpha but the gen z and millennials.
We’re all lost, sick, tired or all 3
Own-Victory473 on
The older generations literally destroyed younger along with modern government, this is just meaningless virtue signalling while they torture minority groups and blame everyone else
EnderMB on
That generation is long gone. I know a few people nearing their forties that have struggled to get on the housing market, and a LOT of people that are basically YOLOing life because they know their income will result in zero pension – even if they start saving everything now.
The risk Labour have is that they’ll have to deal with two or three lost generations that look to take *something* back when the boomers die and their wealth goes *somewhere* – again probably not to them.
TheAwesomeMan123 on
I’m sure these well-off middle aged white people know exactly what the youth of today needs to revitalise their political engagement.
wiidsmoker on
Every generation starting with Millennials are a lost generation. Boomers have done everything they could to hoard wealth in every facet while making cost of living extremely difficult
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Kinda feel like we’ve been saying this for at least three generations…
I think you’re about 20 years too late mate. We already have a lost generation that’re trying desperately to buy their first home right now. Nice to see that maybe the kids will have it a little better though.
Why do I think this plan will inevitably involve further sacrificing the futures of the young in service of pensioners.
What we reckoning, mandatory national service in care homes, all education is now loan based, a kibbutz program for the young progressives?
Thats an odd way to phrase ‘we’re going to remove benefits from young people to force them to take care home jobs’…
It’s impossible without taking at least some power and privilege away from the boomers, which you already proved you are unwilling to do with the winter fuel allowance.
The kids that were going through school during COVID lockdowns have already been long fucked over unfortunately Kier.
Now its time to learn from mistakes, and help those that have already been hurt
“Grandad, Where you a part of the Starmer Youth during the war?”
Kier Starmer saying this as the government is investing in AI to replace those same young people’s future jobs
Not in that bracket now but too late. I’m lost after graduating after the crash tbh.
The advantage of a liberal democracy is that you can or have to quickly adapt to the needs of the people or you’ll get voted out.
The disadvantage is that you can’t root out systemic problems except by consent of successive governments and so therefore are generally short termist.
The clusterF of financial crisis Austerity Brexit Ukraine Covid Brexit Austerity Debt crisis wealth inequality mh depression is not fixed in 5 years, it’s takes something like 15-20 years to do. (Maybe more)
Young people do not have much of a stake in society. The things that matter to them like climate change or having disposable income, going to University, having a irl social life that’s fulfilling, are worse options all the time compared to the immediately previous generations.
Ofcourse they will be demotivated, that’s why all the crypto and skool online and scam and grift and education course MLM stuff got so popular
The idea of 50 (probably increasing to 60) years work for a pension pot that will be gutted by inflation does not appeal whatsoever
And who can blame them?
I’m 50 and will likely be made redundant next year. I fear I will never work again and be forced to just rot away on UC barely scraping by. My industry (retail) is dying and I have only ever worked in that sector. I’m still glad I’m not a young person though as at least I’m being thrown on the scrapheap at a more appropriate age….
Leave our private pensions alone and let us save for retirement in peace, that’d help a lot!
How about making it affordable to actually have some kind of nice life ?
If the words chosen are deliberate, I’m not sure how I entirely feel.
Sure my generation, the one before and the one after have been left in the dust, but I refuse to have the same mentality as the current pensioners, or wealthy have, so I’m ok with some of my resources being diverted to flourish young people’s lives.
But saying ‘trusted adult’, and ‘government programme’ rubs me a little weird. If it was investment into community run community centre with subsidized food and drink, that’s one thing, to improve local community cohesion. If it was a sort of inter UK student exchange programme so those in deprived areas can mingle with those in more well off areas, that works, sort of like how NCS is/was.
All forms of the government ASSISTING in community self sufficiency, and cohesion, but making sure there’s a trusted adult as if there’s going to be a social services rep to go to for your problems, or a government programme in the broad sense.. sounds like a way for money to be siphoned, the government to sound like they are offering something but no one wants it or to implement its agenda. I’m going for the latter given the trajectory of national ID’s, online control, and messaging snooping it’s tried. It doesn’t want to work for a community, it wants its thumb under it.
It’s not just the latest gen alpha but the gen z and millennials.
We’re all lost, sick, tired or all 3
The older generations literally destroyed younger along with modern government, this is just meaningless virtue signalling while they torture minority groups and blame everyone else
That generation is long gone. I know a few people nearing their forties that have struggled to get on the housing market, and a LOT of people that are basically YOLOing life because they know their income will result in zero pension – even if they start saving everything now.
The risk Labour have is that they’ll have to deal with two or three lost generations that look to take *something* back when the boomers die and their wealth goes *somewhere* – again probably not to them.
I’m sure these well-off middle aged white people know exactly what the youth of today needs to revitalise their political engagement.
Every generation starting with Millennials are a lost generation. Boomers have done everything they could to hoard wealth in every facet while making cost of living extremely difficult