La Cina sta pianificando un furto di terre da parte della Russia? Cosa sapere
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By Micah McCartney – China News Reporter:
Recent moves by China reveal it has not forgotten the territory lost to the Russian Far East during its “Century of Humiliation.” This has raised speculation that the world’s longest border may be ripe for Chinese encroachment, even as “no limits partners” Beijing and Moscow appear increasingly aligned on the world stage.
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I hope so. Russia’s loss is Europe’s gain
Once Russia breaks again they will get back what was stolen by Russia.
Russia, a country 20 times bigger than Japan, but with the same GDP as 1 Japan. Full of valuable metals that just doesn’t have the money to exploit those metals is just a waste of space anyway. Let’s split it up and mine the heck out of it.
It’s free real estate over there. Why pay for the lumber and whatever the fuck China is buying from those parts of russia, when you can just take it without much effort? 😀
I have heard few Chinese people claiming that Vladivostok and the surrounding areas belong to China.
However I wouldn’t expect the Chinese officials to have any actual plans to grab those areas, if only because Russia has nuclear weapons.
Chinese nationalists might want to start seeing that there are rather blatantly obvious parallels between their own Century of Humiliation and how Russia has long treated Eastern Europe. Their 21st century government is siding with imperialism that’s killing people and stealing land.
If they are, it won’t be until after any confrontation with the Americans has come to its conclusion. China can luck Russia any time they like, but the US probably only for the next decade or so.
Why bother grabbing land when you can just bribe local officials, even federal ones to just get control over the resources you want
This would cost tens of millions at best, compared to billions for an invasion
No. [Next question.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headlines)
Anyone who thinks China would risk nuclear conflict over some absolutely wild and undeveloped patch of sparsely populated frost bite in Eastern Russia, they are absolutely wrong.
China is not going to make Russia an enemy when they’re surrounded by South Korea, Japan, India, and the US Military
sounds like wishful thinking. China can (or even does) have an effective control over Russia’s Far East without annexing it.
In 1756, the Diplomatic Revolution cause the previous two alliances Franco-Prussian and Anglo-Austrian to switch into Franco-Austrian and Anglo-Prussian alliances within one year.
I hope we will see something similar, because with the US siding with Russia and both of them preying on EU, I expect the decade to be quite grim for we Europeans if China continue to support Putin’s regime.
The only land grab China will go for is Taiwan.
I mean do they have to? Russia is currently more and more reliant on China to keep up its war and economy.
China could probably make effective control the price of doing business, even if formally it remains Russia.
Copium
They’ll just…step in temporarily to help….
Chinese action against the Russians is unlikely to occur as long as they feel ideologically isolated in terms of having economic partners with a shared alignment- which is going to be the case for the foreseeable future.
The EU is comprised of countries that are all far more liberal than the Chinese are comfortable with, even places like Hungary. They see the EU as a threat, because that is fundamental to how one party states perceive any foreign country where dissent has a sanctuary.
Authoritarian governments understand that all non-authoritarian governments are their common enemy. The Chinese aren’t going to stab the Russians in the back while they’re still using them as a shield against the Europeans and Americans.
The Chinese are going to continue increasing their leverage over Russia and putting the Russians in a position where they are increasingly dependent on China, but they’re not going to destroy Russia as a country just because they can- especially not when they’re still getting use out of Russia.
They would probably go for a Hong Kong style deal where they get sovereignty for 99 years. They want the port not a huge war. I think.
China wants to get to the North Pole and all the natural unclaimed resources they find on the way there. It would make sense for them to let the ruzzians exhaust and weaken themselves in the pointless war against Ukraine until most of the land they want to claim is depopulated. Since ruzzia is totally dependent on China for technology and support, they won`t be able to put up a fight against them. Most of ruzzian infrastructure will just stop working.
Someone somewhere is certainly drooling in his fantasy.
It won’t need to grab it. China will just say give it back after Russia is completely in their debt for survival.
Unlikely. Because contrary to Russia’s Putin, Chinese leaders are not reasoning like medieval lords. Gaining some poor and quasi-empty territory at their border, on some weak historical claim, at a huge economic and human cost makes no sense whatsoever.
Russia is much more useful to China as an economic and diplomatic vassal. Fully dependent on China for anything technologically more advanced than a chair, and doing whatever China wants whenever China wants it.
It will be the same situation as it was for Alaska. China just needs to wait and buy it back, at discount price.
RuZZian Far East is already de facto Chinese. There is Chinese population, farming, industry, and drug labs. ruZZians are the minority, thus, according to putler, the area is Chinese
I find it hilarious how Europeans literally write up fanfic about their two biggest adversaries tearing up their carefully negotiated alliance and going to war with each other for no good reason.