“Cosa preoccupa davvero gli americani: i valori europei o l’unità europea?” – Il commissario europeo alla Difesa Kubilius sostiene che gli Stati Uniti vedono l’Europa unita come un rivale e intendono indebolirla

https://andriuskubilius.lt/en/what-really-worries-americans/

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  1. goldstarflag on

    That is the correct analysis. They don’t care about migration or “civilizational erasure” or whatever shibboleths they put out there. They only use that in an attempt to divide Europeans and undermine the EU, trying to boost russophilic elements and delay European integration.

    What Trump and his circle fear isn’t “civilizational erasure”. It’s the opposite; our unification. They dread a unified Europe with real power. That’s why they prop up petty nationalists.

  2. Darth-mickyluv on

    I mean, isn’t this blindingly obvious? It’s not like it’s subtle or anything.

  3. DragonFromFurther on

    Essentially anything against worldwide dolar supremacy (**!**)

  4. ExtremeDoubleghg on

    If I didnt think the EU would punish us for Brexit if we rejoined, I atleast think we could be a lot closer. Would prefer that to glazing America.

  5. Vhermithrax on

    >US sees a united Europe as a rival and plans to undermine it

    I’ve heard that for the first time probably over 5 years ago, but it looks like our political elites need more time than a regular person to see things through

  6. FuckTheTile on

    Remember when Saddam Hussain was selling oil in euros rather than dollars and the US invaded them and toppled the regime?

    Pepper ridge farm remembers

  7. the_quail on

    wow finally an eu politician who understands the us. we don’t hate european nations. we hate a singular united pan-european nation state, since that would be a potential peer competitor (that’s why we hate china, hated the ussr, killed germany twice and japan once)

  8. diamanthaende on

    Of course, hence the Musk-Rat and the army of US bots working hand in hand with their Russian and Chinese brethren to destabilise European countries from within and the European Union / European unity in general. Not to mention the substantial support of anti-EU parties on both sides of the political spectrum.

    The best antidote is stronger integration and better cooperation and coordination of foreign policy, while rigorously going after malign actors and their tools to spread hate. Also follow the money and imprison every single one of the corrupt European politicians / parties getting money from shady sources.

  9. MaestroGena on

    Of course these greedy pricks from the US administration are all for that. They’re siding with Russians, they have the same goal

  10. balltongueee on

    >the US sees a united Europe as a rival and plans to undermine it

    Duh? This is painfully obvious to anyone who wasn’t dropped on the head repeatedly.

  11. Free-Internet1981 on

    Just now you wake up, i mean im a dumb fuck and have seen this back from the covid days

  12. With a little help of their friends and traitor to their nation that are far-right movements.

  13. Horror_Elevator_3263 on

    Of course the US sees us that way. Separated we are subservient to Washington and that’s what they want. Just look at Hungary and Slovakia, the EU countries that Washington likes: their governments call themselves patriots yet they serve Russia and the US.

    They’re not worried about European values, those haven’t changed. They’re worried that if European lives become better from working in unity, their oligarchy will fall apart when their citizens realize there’s better systems out there. You know, systems where there aren’t large datacenters in residential areas, not letting citizens sleep or have running water, all in the name of letting Meta train a bad LLM with PBs of pirated data.

  14. CluelessExxpat on

    Ah… no? A united EU means you need to influence/control less people, not more.

    Have anyone actually read the freaking strategy report that has been invading the headlines left and right?

  15. TheMyzzler on

    Most Americans don’t really care at all about Europe or Europeans, most barely know how to point at the entire continent on a map.

  16. No_Relief7644 on

    I think Americans would be terrified of a greater Europe because we fear economic relations between EU and China. I don’t think a federalized Europe and foreign policy could happen but I’d be genuinely surprised.

  17. pureDDefiance on

    The American right wing can’t stand Europe for the same reason Al Qaeda and Putin do: They don’t want to have an example of a successful society out there that might give the people they’re trying to rule any ideas.

  18. Ok-Teacher-8755 on

    So…, should we start supporting riots in the US now?

  19. Anomuumi on

    I think the main problem for the US billionaires is that the EU is an inconvenient reminder that citizens can have rights, workers can be something else than slaves to corporate overlords, and the weak and sick do not need to be preyed upon.

  20. _Twas_Ere_ on

    Lol. Lmao even. Most Americans don’t care about Europe. If they consider anyone an actual, genuine threat, it would be China.

  21. MonkeLord1234 on

    European Unity… at best it’s co-operation, we’re never unified.

    We’ve got multiple world powers, right wing media and petty poltics preventing unity. Just look at us in the UK, we fell for the manipulations with Brexit. Side note, in case anyone forgot/was too young to know, the vote was 52% leave and 48% remain, so pretty close.

    Ever since Brexit there are people (a very small number) who view us as worse than Russia and the US, because we are “traitors to the EU”. I voted remain, been pro EU most of my life… but some of the things I’ve seen written by people is insane (on this sub and others).

    But hey, it literally plays into the hands of the above mentioned points preventing ‘European Unity’, so maybe it’s all part of the plan to keep us split. Also if you don’t agree with this comment, that’s fine, it’s just my opinion on things, you are free to ignore or argue against it.

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