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    Rapporto del governo tedesco: le autorità statunitensi hanno ampio accesso ai dati cloud dell’UE

    https://www.heise.de/news/Gutachten-US-Behoerden-haben-weitreichenden-Zugriff-auf-europaeische-Cloud-Daten-11111043.html

    di Strange_Valuable3016

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    1. Strange_Valuable3016 on

      The important bit: it doesn’t matter where the servers physically are. What matters is who controls them.

      AWS Frankfurt datacenters are still controlled by a US company. US law applies. Same for Azure Europe and Google Cloud EU regions.

      This is from University of Cologne law professors, commissioned by the German Interior Ministry.

      The “EU data residency” marketing is misleading. Your data might sit in Frankfurt, but the CLOUD Act and FISA 702 still give US authorities access through the parent company.

      This affects healthcare records, banking data, government systems. Anything on US controlled cloud infrastructure in the EU.

      The EU knows this. That’s why they’re pushing to triple EU datacenter capacity by 2030 and reduce US market dominance (currently 70%+).

      Actual EU alternatives exist. Hetzner, OVHcloud, Scaleway. Smaller, fewer features, but legally outside US jurisdiction. I’m building on Hetzner for this exact reason (akcache.io, managed databases).

      If you work in healthcare, finance, or public sector in the EU, your compliance people should read this report.

      Exciting times for the cloud native push.

    2. Fyrgonson on

      No shit, companies can access data from their own datacenters? Did anyone actually think that they can’t?

      Also, even if we build our own datacenters, they will still run on at least partly american hardware and software, imagine the shock when we find out they have access to those as well.

      Unless you own completely the whole pipeline from hardware to software and location, your data will be accessible by those that own the pipeline, and It ain’t us.

    3. kodos_der_henker on

      Nothing new or surprising here, we know for a long time now that US has access to almost everything without sharing any of their data

      Hence why opposing chat control is important as this would give US authorities and companies the remaining data they currently don’t have access to

    5. quixotichance on

      The EU needs a regulation requiring technology companies have an *independent* EU headquarters to operate here. Microsoft, Oracle are not going to walk away from the billions they make in the EU, they’ll do whatever they are required to for market access.

      However expecting them to do it without requiring it via regulation wiil not work, that kind of separation is a. lot of work, it’d would be profitable for them so they’ll do it if they have to but they are not going to do it if they can have market access without it.

      Also expect a lot of US govt backlash because they know once this happens then it gets harder to spy on europeans

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