>Jarlov [Chairman of the Defence Committee of the Danish Parliament] argues that the United States is no longer willing to risk its own security for the sake of Europe, which is a key point in the discussion on European defence autonomy. He warns that excessive reliance on the American nuclear umbrella could result in Europe becoming a passive observer of global crises rather than an active participant in its own defence. In his view, the only credible way to counter potential nuclear threats from Russia is for the European Union to establish its own nuclear umbrella, providing the continent with a genuine deterrence capability and strengthening strategic stability in the region.
>The debate over independent nuclear deterrence is also emerging in the Nordic countries. In Sweden, a country that previously ran a secret nuclear program, voices have resurfaced suggesting that it may be worth reconsidering the possession of its own nuclear weapons or establishing a joint Nordic nuclear umbrella. […]
loginisverybroken on
NPT is on it’s deathbed it seems
Neutral-frame on
I wonder what the response will be from the nuclear countries if this becomes a real prospect.
Potential-South-2807 on
This is likely just posturing to get commitments from the UK and/or France. Would be really interesting if they actually go for it though.
SeveralLadder on
A man can only get so hard…
United_Bug3428 on
Let’s get it!!!🇸🇪🇩🇰🇳🇴🇫🇮
OldRepresentative578 on
If Russian aggression had been stopped in 2022 or better yet in 2014, the major driver of nuclear proliferation would be gone.
pierukainen on
The Nordics absolutely need to have both strategic and tactical nukes.
Bicentennial_Douche on
Finland already has the Project Väinämöinen.
Kraznukscha on
Yes please
Vhermithrax on
I really hope that our government is secretly working with Swedes or other nerby state, to produce nuclear weapons
AMGsoon on
Scandinavia should link up with Poland and start a project like that.
There is already a lot of military cooperation going on with Poland buying Swedish submarines and Carl Gustavs, Norway buying PPZR Piorun and Poland using Finnish licence for its KTO Rosomak. Also Poland is already working on missiles.
Poland + Baltics + Scandinavia is a natural alliance against Russia
supranes on
Hell yes
Jindujun on
I for one welcome the idea of a nordic nuclear umbrella headed by Sweden.
Revoke the “Convention on the Prohibition of the Development, Production and Stockpiling of Bacteriological (Biological) and Toxin Weapons and on their Destruction” and then make a 50 megaton Surströmming bomb. That would show people we mean business! We can name it after our beloved king and call it the Knug Bomb.
Enchilada0374 on
Canada needs them too. How bout we work together? We have a lot of uranium and nuclear expertise.
Practicalistist on
I really hope that this nuclear deterrent is left to the EU as an institution, not to the individual member states.
etnicor on
LOL.
Looking forward to that debate in Sweden, will be a shit show and all the newspapers will just put out propaganda how bad it is and that we should just hug.
If they want todo it, it should probably be hidden from the public like last time.
Wellsy on
Add Canada to this list. Canada should have a submarine port for British and French nuclear submarines, immediately, and it should acquire its own arsenal to ensure its neighbours remain neighbourly.
Illustrious_Fan_8148 on
Maybe the smaller democracies need to come together to create a modern nuclear deterrent together rather than all going at it alone
ImLonenyNunlovable on
Yeah, im in favor of my country aquiring nukes.
Currently we live in a world where three of the biggesr, most corrupt and authoritarian countries which have all committed war crimes and/or human rights violations have vast nuclear weapon arsenal.
But the least corrupt, most equalitarian countries with high social safety networks and among the happiest countries dont have a single nuclear weapon.
And there absolutely corrupt countries, with war criminals and human rights abuses, violent warmongering rethorric tell us if we want to aquire nuclear weapons, that brings the world closer to annihilation?
Im in favor of infrastructure and self reliance disbarring authoritarian corrupt nations from like russia, USA or China waving their influence over other countries which actually want to work towards making the world a better place.
thesofakillers on
I want nuclear weapons for my country, Italy, too.
VilleKivinen on
Most realistic plan would be United nuclear program by Nordic Countries, Baltics and Poland, with some technical help from France.
Unfortunately we live in the world where security quarantees from US don’t mean anything, and so the only way to make sure Russia doesn’t invade is to get nuclear weapons.
But first we should offer Russia a deal, we won’t get nuclear weapons if they get rid of theirs.
Better-University529 on
Balkans with nuclear weapons, good luck Europe!
JimTheSaint on
This seems very reasonable – we know that we cant rely on the US anymore, and we know that Russia only respects power an they rely on their own nukes to project that power, we need our own to neutralize that power.
ReturnOfTheSaint14 on
If that’s the case,better ask Sweden to revive the Bkan 1C. I really want to see a dozen of those artillery pieces launch tactical nuke shells every 2 seconds into the Russian territories.
Also for Italy, let’s revive the Alfa project and let’s install nuclear missiles onto our frigates,so maybe this time ~~New USSR~~ Russia will think twice to do anything remotely bad in Europe
StomachNecessary5512 on
Both the Nordic as well as Poland and Germany needs nuclear weapons
Nittefils on
Of course the nordics need nukes. It is a silly question. And if not, any invasion will be a slow war of attrition with countless dead.
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>Jarlov [Chairman of the Defence Committee of the Danish Parliament] argues that the United States is no longer willing to risk its own security for the sake of Europe, which is a key point in the discussion on European defence autonomy. He warns that excessive reliance on the American nuclear umbrella could result in Europe becoming a passive observer of global crises rather than an active participant in its own defence. In his view, the only credible way to counter potential nuclear threats from Russia is for the European Union to establish its own nuclear umbrella, providing the continent with a genuine deterrence capability and strengthening strategic stability in the region.
>The debate over independent nuclear deterrence is also emerging in the Nordic countries. In Sweden, a country that previously ran a secret nuclear program, voices have resurfaced suggesting that it may be worth reconsidering the possession of its own nuclear weapons or establishing a joint Nordic nuclear umbrella. […]
NPT is on it’s deathbed it seems
I wonder what the response will be from the nuclear countries if this becomes a real prospect.
This is likely just posturing to get commitments from the UK and/or France. Would be really interesting if they actually go for it though.
A man can only get so hard…
Let’s get it!!!🇸🇪🇩🇰🇳🇴🇫🇮
If Russian aggression had been stopped in 2022 or better yet in 2014, the major driver of nuclear proliferation would be gone.
The Nordics absolutely need to have both strategic and tactical nukes.
Finland already has the Project Väinämöinen.
Yes please
I really hope that our government is secretly working with Swedes or other nerby state, to produce nuclear weapons
Scandinavia should link up with Poland and start a project like that.
There is already a lot of military cooperation going on with Poland buying Swedish submarines and Carl Gustavs, Norway buying PPZR Piorun and Poland using Finnish licence for its KTO Rosomak. Also Poland is already working on missiles.
Poland + Baltics + Scandinavia is a natural alliance against Russia
Hell yes
I for one welcome the idea of a nordic nuclear umbrella headed by Sweden.
Revoke the “Convention on the Prohibition of the Development, Production and Stockpiling of Bacteriological (Biological) and Toxin Weapons and on their Destruction” and then make a 50 megaton Surströmming bomb. That would show people we mean business! We can name it after our beloved king and call it the Knug Bomb.
Canada needs them too. How bout we work together? We have a lot of uranium and nuclear expertise.
I really hope that this nuclear deterrent is left to the EU as an institution, not to the individual member states.
LOL.
Looking forward to that debate in Sweden, will be a shit show and all the newspapers will just put out propaganda how bad it is and that we should just hug.
If they want todo it, it should probably be hidden from the public like last time.
Add Canada to this list. Canada should have a submarine port for British and French nuclear submarines, immediately, and it should acquire its own arsenal to ensure its neighbours remain neighbourly.
Maybe the smaller democracies need to come together to create a modern nuclear deterrent together rather than all going at it alone
Yeah, im in favor of my country aquiring nukes.
Currently we live in a world where three of the biggesr, most corrupt and authoritarian countries which have all committed war crimes and/or human rights violations have vast nuclear weapon arsenal.
But the least corrupt, most equalitarian countries with high social safety networks and among the happiest countries dont have a single nuclear weapon.
And there absolutely corrupt countries, with war criminals and human rights abuses, violent warmongering rethorric tell us if we want to aquire nuclear weapons, that brings the world closer to annihilation?
Im in favor of infrastructure and self reliance disbarring authoritarian corrupt nations from like russia, USA or China waving their influence over other countries which actually want to work towards making the world a better place.
I want nuclear weapons for my country, Italy, too.
Most realistic plan would be United nuclear program by Nordic Countries, Baltics and Poland, with some technical help from France.
Unfortunately we live in the world where security quarantees from US don’t mean anything, and so the only way to make sure Russia doesn’t invade is to get nuclear weapons.
But first we should offer Russia a deal, we won’t get nuclear weapons if they get rid of theirs.
Balkans with nuclear weapons, good luck Europe!
This seems very reasonable – we know that we cant rely on the US anymore, and we know that Russia only respects power an they rely on their own nukes to project that power, we need our own to neutralize that power.
If that’s the case,better ask Sweden to revive the Bkan 1C. I really want to see a dozen of those artillery pieces launch tactical nuke shells every 2 seconds into the Russian territories.
Also for Italy, let’s revive the Alfa project and let’s install nuclear missiles onto our frigates,so maybe this time ~~New USSR~~ Russia will think twice to do anything remotely bad in Europe
Both the Nordic as well as Poland and Germany needs nuclear weapons
Of course the nordics need nukes. It is a silly question. And if not, any invasion will be a slow war of attrition with countless dead.