Il modello David Gandy dice che non c’è abbastanza narrativa sui “bravi uomini”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/david-gandy-centre-for-social-justice-andrew-tate-british-laura-kuenssberg-b2875156.html

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  1. Dead serious: Peppa Pigs dad is apparently not a good man according to David Gandy.

    “Useless fool” – such a scathing review of Bacon Sr.

  2. MondeyMondey on

    > one of the best-paid male models and known for Dolce and Gabbana’s 2007 advert for Light Blue in which he wore a pair of white briefs.

    This guy sounds like a fucking genius

  3. Spamgrenade on

    Something about people trying to push back against the manosphere really infuriates right wingers.

  4. GruffScottishGuy on

    Then create the narrative, be that good man.

    This goes for us all, be the good man and teach that to your kids, nephews, cousins, etc. Be the man that listens to your friends and lets them know they can come to you if they have problems. Be the man that reaches out if you think they may be depressed or lonely. Be the man that actually listens to criticisms regarding negative male attitudes and doesn’t just get defensive and angry.

  5. No_Tax6916 on

    After his feature in this video, I can never take him seriously. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbeoV5ANNI&pp=ygUTTWVzc2FnZSB0byBzbHV0aGF0ZQ%3D%3D

  6. thebigbioss on

    I get the idea, but the issue is the males who are influenced by andrew tate will not be swayed by any campaign to be good. Also it feels like patronising to call what should be standard human behaviour “good man”.

  7. derrenbrownisawizard on

    This article references something he said 2 weeks ago have we not moved through the news cycle yet?

  8. RecentTwo544 on

    As someone who considers himself a “good man”, an opinion my wife, friends, mum, brother, etc all seem to share, I can answer this –

    It’s just the default. You don’t need a “narrative”. It’s just the norm and how you should be.

  9. Consistent-Pirate-23 on

    A lot of people that wade in on the Tate/Manosphere debate haven’t spoken to lost young lads about what’s going on.

    They look up to him because he has material possessions and they don’t, they feel isolated in their lives and his words resonate with them. So you try to explain what he thinks of women and says about them, and those women are their classmates, their sisters, their mums etc.

    By the time they discover him, where were the male role models? Where were the positive images of men in their lives? If their dad is either absent, dead or awful, and likewise stepdad/uncle etc then it all adds up.

    I’ve spent my life as one of the good guys and wonder what else there is to do, because opinions just seem to keep getting more polarised

  10. AmpleApple9 on

    John Cena. I haven’t seen or heard anything bad about him? Jacked, masculine, polite, respectful, LGBTQ+ supporter, most Make a Wish appearances.

    Surely a good role model.

  11. AnselaJonla on

    More of my feed is male than female, mostly because I shamelessly admit I like the eye candy. It’s also fairly niche, because of the sort of things I feed into it.

    Blumineck: British content creator, does pole dance (and openly admits that he admires the sex workers that made the art what it is today), archery, cross dressing, and has a small armoury of bows, crossbows, swords, axes, and polearms that he demonstrates in his garden, sometimes while doing pole work
    Sellsword Arts: two guys in Texas, who are both high level HEMA fencers, and their friend Megan, who mix nerdy pop culture with serious sword stuff
    Jacques Ze Whipper: American performer who swapped being a television weatherman for whip artistry and singing filk songs live on stage
    Instructor Bensei: highly skilled martial artist who does some amazing tricks with a meteor hammer and rope dart
    RobinSwords: very sharply dressed swordsman
    Tank Tolman: a Viking who does inspirational and mental health posts, along with duets showcasing the abilities of other weapons nerds
    Yee Yee Life: gun wielding crazy man who shoots things with a selection of guns to test the stopping power, from a .22 up to a .50 caliber, from paper plates up to a hay bale
    Glenn DeVarr: a southern country boy who makes an absolutely fabulous Queen
    Stuart Mackey: Irish disaster bisexual BookTok thirst trap
    Daniel Alexander/dalecsander: American bisexual BookTok thirst trap with a stripper pole in his living room
    Badge502: American EMT who says No to putting things up your lower orifice(s) that aren’t specifically designed for that purpose
    Oliver Stark: British actor who seems to be as much of a human golden retriever as his most prominent character is

    Good men are out there. They don’t shout about being good men. They don’t make a big deal about being good men. They just exist, as good men, and if their interests don’t align with yours then you probably won’t see them in your feeds. I found most of these guys by accident, or because I was looking at one of them so another one got recommended to me by the algorithm.

    And that’s what the problem is: if the algorithm doesn’t see that something matches your interests, then you won’t get that thing recommended. If you’re watching the likes of Andrew Tate, then it won’t recommend Stuart, or Ericano, or Jacques because their outlook on life is antithetical to Tate’s.

  12. Whitechix on

    The narrative around men that social media loves to propagate is that they are more dangerous than an apex predator or having one as a boyfriend is embarrassing (Vogue), it literally could not get worse in some places. I know it’s still a minority but it’s really not surprising some young men are getting radicalised or rejecting mainstream politics, what social media allows and real world politics dismiss as being not serious is going to cause chaos.

  13. D-1-S-C-0 on

    I agree with him. The narrative needs to change.

    Attitudes towards men are consistently negative (patriarchy, incels, toxic masculinity) and negligent (issues affecting men are largely ignored).

    It makes some men – particularly those who are isolated or in otherwise difficult circumstances – feel demonised which is extremely counterproductive for all of society.

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