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  1. goldstarflag on

    Chancellor Merz gave a [major speech](https://youtu.be/9ubrrSU0m-A) at the CSU convention yesterday declaring “Pax Americana” over.

    He echoed von der Leyen’s call for Pax Europaea; a completely new European security architecture that includes Ukraine. 

    Andrius Kubilius, Europe’s first-ever Defence Commissioner 🇪🇺 articulated it like [this](https://x.com/KubiliusA/status/1928165743222243835):

    > *Pax Europaea in short:*

    > *What is coming: Europe – up (with defence capabilities); Russia – down (materially and politically); United States – out (preparing for withdrawal); Ukraine – in (preparing for urgent integration with Europe in defence).* 

  2. CertainMiddle2382 on

    I’ll tell you what Europe really lacks.

    It lacks ambition and agression.

    You can’t hope succeeding by just defending your borders. You need the will to thrive, expand and have a great future.

    The US does that, China does that.

    Europe look too old to have thought about that…

  3. well at least some of EU leaders finally seem to get it. Better late then never. Get to it.

  4. WaywardSachem on

    Pax? Buddy, have you *seen* how many wars we’ve started? Nothing ‘pax’ about it.

    Please do better than us, Europe.

  5. Perfect_Match_1111 on

    This is a huge challenge for the EU, but also a unique opportunity to test its own resilience and ability (response) to act.

  6. Busy-Preference-4377 on

    I don’t know why anyone here buys Merz’s speeches. He says this shit all the time. He hasn’t the political vision to do anything about it

  7. Perhaps, in turn, it’ll help us divest from Israel while we’re at it.

  8. EdwardGordor on

    Too little, too late. Europe is becoming irrelevant every day that passes. Bold action, not bold words. But that’s all our leaders know.

  9. goldstarflag on

    Translation;

    > In a speech at the CSU party conference, Chancellor Friedrich Merz called for more personal responsibility in Europe. The era of Pax Americana is over, Merz said.

  10. MrSoapbox on

    It’s been over a decade now. Most of the world have realised this, Europe struggled a bit but has been slowly gearing up for it, Americans are, as always, last to realise and I think when they do, it’s going to start sinking in _hard_ but, they’ve been warned, over and over, so they’ll get no sympathy.

    But, it’s not going to be a world china or Russia envision either.

    War of no war, doesn’t matter, America is done, it had peaked but the downward trajectory is going a lot faster than anyone could have imagined 11 years ago. I predict another 20 years and the US is going to be in a very bad place and now, with no allies! (Go on US, call us ungrateful again, see how much that’ll work…then maybe study _real_ history and see that actually, it’s your country that’s the ungrateful one and you’ll see just how much you actually relied on others)

  11. jm_coppede on

    The problem with Europe, unlike the US, China, or Russia, is that these countries are of a certain size, with sizable populations and significant cohesion. While the EU is ahead of the US and Russia in terms of population, it lags behind China, although organizationally… well, each country pulls in the direction it can, wants, and sees fit.

    There are countries that are further removed from US doctrine and relatively closer to Russia, or distant from both, and so on.

    That’s why there are disinformation campaigns and why they distrust each other even more than they already do.

    I always emphasize this in r/europe and elsewhere, but the EU is more important, stronger, and more relevant than people imagine, both its leaders and its people.

    That’s why Russia, China, the US, and the Arab world are all trying to dissolve it.

  12. SutttonTacoma on

    “I’m not saying Trump is a Russian asset trying to destroy America from the inside, I’m simply saying if he was it would look exactly like this.” Mikel Jollett

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