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  1. ThisTheRealLife on

    I love Ukraine, I want Ukraine to join the EU, but the timeline is absurd! We couldn’t integrate Norway or Iceland within a year, let alone Ukraine.
    Let’s set the ambition to 2030, so it will finally happen 2035-2040.
    (I see this as entirely separate from the ongoing war – in that war we should fully support Ukraine, and we should give them security guarantees as quickly and as far reaching as possible)

  2. “unlikely by diplomats” is a nice way of saying: rotfl, you stupid or smth?

    Between 5 and 10 years of convergence, after hostilities stop, is perhaps the more fitting timeframe for Ukraine. The other problem is, the EU member states themselves may need time to process that too. Both in terms of EU reform that everyone sees is needed (different views in what direction it should go, though) and simply having all member states agree to the accession – it must be unanimous, and obviously there are some current governments that would block accession no mater what.

  3. bot_for_hire_ on

    Yeah sure..and once the money they receive will be conditioned by implementing EU directives and regulations they’ll veto everything and probably go back crying in Russia’s welcoming arms…

  4. skeletal88 on

    It is an absurd idea. It would take 5 to 10 years for them to join. Fix their country, get rid of corruption, adapt new laws and regulations, etc

  5. berikiyan on

    Wrote elsewhere about this bullet speed EU membership of Ukraine:

    I think what EU needs to do at the moment is to create some “half-membership” status where half-members get

    – rotating representation in EU Commission (as the veto practically exists in the commission, limited/rotating veto rights)
    – reduced (say, like a country half of their population) representation in EU parliament (e.g. Ukraine is represented not like a ~40M Poland but like a ~20M Romania)
    – a right to cherry pick/opt in or out EU policies depending on their needs (they can join or not join present or future EU policies)
    – no automatic application of four freedom of movements (goods, people, capital and services) but some guaranteed legislative favoring towards citizens/goods/companies/banks of half member states in full members and vice versa.
    – no unanimity requirement to be a half member state.

    I’d say not only Ukraine but also UK and even Turkey could be interested with such a thing. These countries will likely be the “bridges” (so not exactly europe but not outside europe either) between europe and other cultural spheres: UK with other anglo-saxon countries (Canada, US, Australia and New Zealand) and perhaps commonwealth nations, Ukraine with Russia&Belarus (yes, ironically), Turkey with Muslim&Turkic&Caucasian countries. I could even add a speculative Iberian federation to be the bridge with latin american countries, but that’s up to them to decide (and there’s no particular interest atm)

  6. xxxDKRIxxx on

    The sad reality is that even if Ukraine gets an acceptable peace it will still be a damaged country. Corruption is still high. There will be a lot of unemployed veterans with PTSD. There will be a lot of guns, drones and grenades floating around. I’m certain that their spirit will be enough to handle that and come out on top. But it is not realistic that they will be accepted into the EU quite soon.

  7. im_just_using_logic on

    I mean, obviously. The accession path of any country into the EU takes usually way more years for very good reasons.

    When I read headlines like “Ukraine in EU in 2027”, I’m like “eh? Do people even know what they are talking about?”.

  8. overthinkingmessiah on

    After all the pro Ukrainian solidarity ends no one will want Ukraine in the EU let’s be fr.

  9. AntonioClaus on

    That’s pretty underhanded. They talk about great solidarity with Ukraine, but when push comes to shove, they abandon it.

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