Perché il governo si oppone al divieto della caccia alla volpe?


It’s lobbying right?

Humans are cruel. We’ve been slaughtering each other and animals since the beginning of time and will continue to do so till the end of time unfortunately. 

I would personally phrase this as: *Why are the government pro-fox hunting?*

Being opposed to banning something is simply supporting it.

Why are the government and Sinn Fein opposed to fox hunting. Sinn Fein should not be left off the hook on this.

Because rich cunts hunt foxes, and the government like to be friendly to rich cunts.

Micheal Healy Rae, like is brother, is full of shit. The amount of lies and misinformation they both have told just on this subject is astounding for a national politician and a minister. Danny claimed that 18 of his son lambs were killed by foxes in one day…. absolute nonsense. Micheal claiming that Fox hunting with dogs reduces the spread of disease. They both engage with the subject on these terms but fundamentally support fox hunting with dogs as a sport regardless of the terms or details he seems to be nitpicking at, as he said in this interview.

Ciara Doherty, being a barrister, should have challenged him his claim that it stopped farmers form shooting Foxes. He lied and said it was based on “legal advice”. Firearms or guns are not mentioned in the bill, Coppenger has publicly stated this numerous times, including on radio interviews and during the debate. To paraphrase her “if shooting foxes was banned in the bill, the bill would say shooting foxes was banned, it does not.” The shooting of animals for pest control are handled in other legislation and by the Gardai. No mention was put in the bill because none was needed.

In the interview:
> Micheal Healy Rae: “The people who are engaged in that type of rural pursuit, they do so under strict animal welfare guidelines. They ensure the fact that it is done in a humane way. And there are checks and balances in place now which weren’t there in the past.”

**”they do so under strict animal welfare guidelines”** – utter lies. There no licensing, enforcement, or even laws like that. They can dig a fox out of its hole and throw it to a pack of dogs to rip apart.

**”They ensure the fact that it is done in a humane way”** – more lies and bullshit. The draw out the hunt and the killing for as long as they can. Humane is shooting a fox, not chasing it for a long time, digging it out and then ripping it apart.

**”And there are checks and balances in place now which weren’t there in the past.”** – More lies. No such check and balances exist on paper or in real life. No new laws or policies or enforcement has been introduced on this in the last 30 years.

How this man is a government minister, put there by FFG, is all you need to know about those “two” parties priorities. They’re shameless.

I’d say this is one of the reasons:

“I want to deal very quickly with some of the issues relating to foxes and farming. As I said, they keep down the number of rodents, which is important for arable farming. Rabbits can cost arable farmers a lot of money. The fox is portrayed as a threat to sheep and livestock. The biggest threats to lambs are weather, starvation and disease. They are the leading causes of lamb mortality. Only 1% of lambs are estimated to be lost to foxes. In areas of hill farming the figure may be slightly higher. Let us have grants to help hill farmers deal with that. Good husbandry and fencing are the way around this. We keep hearing that we need to keep down fox numbers. If a cull is needed, it is up to the Department of agriculture to organise that; it will not be a wild west situation of leaving it to individual fox hunts.”

Basically removing the capability for farmers to control foxes on their land.

If you look at the whole debate it’s very clear that it’s not clear enough what the bill is banning and what it isn’t. It’s badly framed.

https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/dail/2025-12-17/9/

That should be addressed by agreeing to word it better rather than arguing with each other in a “does”, “does not” back and forth. It would be interesting to see what would happen if it specifically restricted it to a ban on hunting with dogs.

>The Act of 2013 is amended, in section 12, by the insertion of the following subsection after subsection (9): “(10) A person shall not— (a) hunt a fox, or foxes, ***including*** with a canine or canines, (b) use a canine or canines to flush or dig out a fox, or foxes, from below ground, (c) trap or snare a fox, or foxes, in order to kill the fox, or foxes, (d) engage in trail hunting.”

It literally says “A person shall not— (a) hunt a fox, or foxes, ***including*** with a canine or canines,”

A farmer with a gun shooting a fox would be hunting, regardless of the reason. Likewise, a farmer asking a hunter to get rid of foxes in their land would be illegal, which is what generally happens.

“I also wish to reference the legislation itself. The Bill, as it is formed and worded, proposes to ban all hunting for foxes, regardless of the purpose and manner in which that hunting is carried out. It also proposes a ban on trail hunting. Deputy Roderic O’Gorman made the point that he accepts farmers need to shoot foxes on occasion as a control mechanism but, under this Bill, that activity would be illegal into the future.” – Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Deputy Martin Heydon)
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/dail/2025-12-17/8

I don’t think many people would be opposed to banning hunts on horses with dogs. But the bill was very poorly worded