La lotta alla violenza contro le donne sarà trattata come una repressione del terrorismo, promettono i laburisti

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/violence-women-girls-vawg-strategy-jess-phillips-b2887008.html

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  1. FanjoMcClanjo on

    Mandelson should be shown the door then, seeing as he approves of the trafficking and moleststion of young girls by his dear friend Jeffrey Epstein.

  2. AI-Slop-Bot on

    Jess Phillips is a joke. Good initiative but they shouldn’t allow her anywhere near it.

  3. DoctorKonks on

    Given the damning review for Prevent, I’m sure if that’s a good thing or a bad thing

  4. Rhinofishdog on

    Oh, god. Jess Philips has sons?

    Life must be hard for those boys. Probably thinking of converting to Islam in a bid to win their mother’s affection…

  5. Douglesfield_ on

    Going to be an interesting addition to the Prevent course:

    Watch out for Mohammad watching IS videos

    Watch out for Jamie becoming *really* interested in pagan symbolism and WW2 Germany

    Watch out for Nelson who says he’s been visiting other towns for his new mates

    Watch out for Ben who says girls can’t play football.

  6. Ah, so the plan is to increase the rate of arrests by 600%+ and not address any of the underlying issues. Gotcha.

  7. 99thLuftballon on

    I think parts of this are excellent. For example, the increased funding and focus on sex offences, increased awareness of harmful influencers in schools etc. However, I hope that it doesn’t miss the whole point and go down the rabbit hole of demonising boys. That sounds like it could be a possibility and since a lot of our current problems come from demonising boys and forcing them out of mainstream progressive culture and into the arms of far right arseholes, it really could be counterproductive.

    The last parts of the article, where they talk about the plan for schools and technology, sounds like they plan to continue piling blame and responsibility on teenage boys, which will only serve to alienate them from mainstream discourse and increase their hostility towards girls who they will view as a privileged class.

    I’m also not sure why a focus on nude imagery is so central to this strategy. Teenage boys always have and always will wank to porn. As long as the porn is not violent or harmful, I think we should allow them a little latitude to have a private life, rather than having their phones scan and judge every image. I don’t have a problem with the law cracking down on violent porn, but I don’t see why a telephone should act as a moral guardian of what images you’re allowed to look at. We should teach them the judgement and moral fibre to be considerate of others, rather than have them surveilled by Google and Apple at all times, like a digital version of Iran’s morality police.

  8. Insane, from one hand, the cause is clearly good,

    But why does this read as some Orwellian stuff and will surely backfire in long term

  9. LonelyStranger8467 on

    Are we saying that the British public has a cultural problem that is leading to violence against women and girls?

    Maybe we need to learn from other cultures on how to address this.

  10. FlockBoySlim on

    >The government will also work with tech companies to make it impossible for children to take, view or share nude images through “nudity detection filters”.

    Is this tied to the user end scanning software idea that was being floated around? Pre-load phones with software that scans every image and message for patterns and key words? Or is this a whole other thing?

  11. South_Buy_3175 on

    This is all going to go to shit isn’t it.

    I get wanting to protect women, i get wanting to teach respect, i get wanting to nip misogyny in the bud.

    But teachers are never going to enforce this correctly, they’re overburdened enough as it is, they’ll either not bother or go overboard.

    We’re going to have an entire generation of boys treated like rapists and abusers in the making and wondering why they’re so they’re so fucked up in 20 years.

  12. Fullblowncensorship on

    The perfect example of how the government works, someone who shouldn’t be doing that part of it. 

    This cold ass isn’t going to fix anything, they don’t have empathy for the victims or anything….

  13. Cat-guy64 on

    How about first, people stop supporting horrible political figures like Nigel Farage? He’s clearly a misogynist.

  14. I’m so glad I was born with a cock. I’m really feeling the fucking privilege.

  15. RockTheBloat on

    For God’s sake, can’t we just ban the word terrorism from politics?

  16. Signal_Soft_3827 on

    I hope they reduce violence towards women but at some point the disproportionate focus on crimes against one gender is going to cause a backlash when the other gender feels they are being ignored, despite facing much higher rates of violent crime. If it’s an epidemic for women what is it for men? A super epidemic?

  17. Mccobsta on

    >Giving a statement to the Commons, Ms Phillips pledged to make the UK “one of the hardest places for children to access harmful content and misogynistic influences online”, saying that so-called “nudification” tools, which allow users to strip clothes from those in photographs, will be banned.

    Its rather depressing that those even exist

    Good that we’re doing something againts them

    Was going to link to an article on this subject but there’s a depressingly high amount of articles of this happening

  18. Downtown-Finish8073 on

    It’s a genuinely good goal to treat this with the seriousness it deserves, but the comparison to counter-terrorism makes me nervous about overreach. We’ve all seen how Prevent can be misapplied, and the last thing we need is for healthy teenage awkwardness to be flagged as a risk. Getting the implementation right, with a focus on actual harmful behaviours and not just policing thoughts, will be absolutely crucial. The intention is solid, but the devil is always in the details.

  19. ByronsLastStand on

    Men and women are actually abused at similar rates, according to numerous in-depth studies. While men aren’t killed as much in proportional terms by their partners as women are (though there’s actually less difference in the totals than you’d imagine), men in abusive relationships are far more likely to commit suicide, which ought to be treated as a form of murder anyway.

    However, powerful domestic violence charities want their funding, radical feminist academics and lawmakers want to impose their ideology, the police and other actors aren’t trained properly, and few in politics or the media actually want to confront this reality, instead choosing to obey a very easy narrative about how men and women behave, despite it not reflecting reality, and despite most people actually wanting change here.

    JP’s policy here won’t actually do much for women experiencing violence- there would be so many better things they could do to help female victims. Instead, they’re committing to further demonising men and boys, and refusing to examine root causes.

    As a survivor- a male survivor – of domestic and sexual violence as perpetrated by a woman, this makes me so angry.

  20. Unlucky-Jello-5660 on

    So be ineffective and somehow end up with even more surveillance on our daily lives?

  21. Useful_Promotion_521 on

    The continual harping on to terrorism really is a diagnostic behaviour of the modern British political class.  

    Violence against women and girls needs to be understood in its context; social media, legacy media, upbringing and inequality all play a part in legitimizing it… but of course let’s instead talk about comparing it to terrorism because that way the plebs will understand that we are treating it seriously.

  22. Anti-Theist- on

    Yeah cause you’ve sorted terrorism out havent you, so this will work a treat. Absolute morons.

  23. shadereckless on

    I get the feeling that ‘Terror Legislation’ is now being used for wildly different purposes than was originally intended 

  24. Appropriate-Divide64 on

    What terror crackdown? 😂 Also these are two completely different crimes.

  25. B1ueRogue on

    Om really sorry but why just woman ..I was beaten black and blue out of my 5 foot girlfriend and I’m 6 foot 7.. it can’t be ingrained into the female orchestra that its acceptable to hit people and expect nothing back. Of woman are able to do any job fill in position take part on activity which is I must say staggering that it’s only recently acceptable.. then im sorry to say they can expect a reaction when it gets abusive.. im not talking about a slap im talking about when a woman uses her protected position to treat her man like a punch bag. Im not promoting men to hit woman ..I just dont think using statements like we will take all abuse against woman as not acceptable language. Everyone can be a victim. I was an abused child by my mother ..I had abusive girlfriends and not once have I lashed out in anger. But its not ok for it to be acceptable to lash out on men. Sorry to offend but everyone deserves protection from abuse.

  26. MiniMages on

    This is beyond stupid. It should be treated as the same for both sexes not just women and it should never be treated as terrorism as the government and the police will definitely abuse the law to their advantgage and at the detriment of the public.

  27. mars-jupiter on

    Having read the BBC article on this, something I think would be very beneficial was suggested by a victim of domestic abuse. She suggested that both men and women who have been victims of domestic abuse should go into assemblies and talk about their experience. Not enough to make them scared or anything, but provide factual information. If kids know what signs to look for when it comes to domestic abuse then there’s more of a chance that they will be able to avoid that kind of relationship.

    It’s all well and good trying to get the boys to grow up understanding that it’s wrong and what behaviours not to exhibit, but kids should also know what to look out for so they don’t become victims of domestic abuse.

  28. Ironrats on

    Nice, so we can also now apply terror charges to all them gangs?

    No?

    Ok.

  29. apokrif1 on

    > Promising to make “women and girls safe at last”

    No promise to make all people safe at last?

  30. MajorLayer1701 on

    They literally hide the rape gangs for “community relations”.

  31. JicamaIcy7621 on

    The suicide rate among men in UK is 17.8 per 100.000.
    By the this government is done the rate will be above 20.

  32. FearAndSurprise on

    So where the fuck was Jess’ enthusiasm when those girls were being ganged up on and assaulted.

  33. BlackSpinedPlinketto on

    I really think ‘respect your partners’ and don’t be sexist is universal and we should all have lessons in that.

    I don’t rate this policy of demonising boys and not including girls in the discussion.

    I also think teenagers should have access to mild porn. Not the hardcore stuff. But I don’t think looking at nude pictures should be illegal.

  34. Vladsamir on

    All this will do is give the far-right ammunition to radicalise more.

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