Questa è la terza volta che stiamo senza riscaldamento. Ogni volta che lo chiediamo ci prendono in giro per aver usato troppo carburante. Si affittano 2 stanze, ciascuna con 2 stufe, ma solo 1 funziona. Glielo diciamo e loro ci ignorano. Ogni volta che finiamo ho paura di chiederlo di nuovo.
Abbiamo un figlio. Lasciamo chiusa l’altra stanza perché non riusciamo a tenerla calda. Questo non è un modo di vivere. Non sono l’unico affittuario che ha avuto problemi, ma tutti gli altri sembrano voler semplicemente restare nascosti e andare avanti.
Sono cresciuto con una famiglia violenta e questo mi sembra stranamente familiare. Per fortuna ci trasferiremo la prossima settimana, ma questo è disumano!
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di dice-warden
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Hi there,
You don’t report them : you sue them. You can report the situation to your Mieterverein so that they can advise you on further actions.
Not enough context. Doesn’t sound abusive. If you really use 900 euro worth of oil and it’s always low they have a right to either ask or charge you. Do you have pauschale or Vorauszahlung?
I feel like there’s a bit of information missing – the heaters in individual rooms need to be refueled? What kind of heating do you have? Do you pay for the amount of fuel you’re using or is fuel covered by a blank fee included in rent?
To me, it reads as if you just pay a blank fee and now the landlord feels like you’re using the heater in inappropriate, wasteful ways, costing him money.
landlord sounds pretty nice tbh.
1. You do not report a landlord. You have to get a lawyer or be member at the local or national Mietverein.
2. How long have you been living there? Died you cahnge your heating behaviour? Is there a technical reason you need more oil (no mainatence on the oil heater so its becomin inefficient maybe? Landlord has to check it regulary)
3. How is the house constructed? Is it old? Renovated? Insulated or not?
4. How are the heaters supplied? Are these Oil chimneys?
Four heaters in two rooms wont amount to 900 euro Nachzahlung. I know because I had a house with oil burner that consumed 5000+ L oil per year. On normal years we paid around 3000 Eur per year, during the onset of Ukraine wars we paid 5000 euro per year. But that was for heating an entire house with 160sqm plus 70sqm basement.
Sounds like you share the heating with the landlord. Do you have separate meter for your heaters?
Asking to talk over tea is abusive?
You sound like a nightmare tennant.
Buy small thermometers and put it in different parts of your home. The temperature shouldn’t be less than 18°C otherwise it could grow mold.
Check how warm it is for a period of time and you could have arguments to go to the mietverein, even when you say that half of the heaters doesn’t work…should be enough.
whats abusive about this and why is your landlord paying for energy cost
I don’t understand how he is Abusive – landlord seems nice and legit. You can meet him and tell him your requirement and your usage. He is offering to meet in person as well.
Can you please tell us what kind of heater it is ? And how you are using it. Maybe something is broken etc.
If you pay what you use they must give prove of you wasting that on their Invoice/Nebenkostenabrechnung (e.g. all apartments have separate measure unit). Or you pay lumpsum. In neither case you are obliged to ask for oil, it should be taken care of by them.
450 euro extra in a month sounds impossible unless the heater is broken. I have 245sqm and spend maximum(!) 350euro total Oil per month during the 4-5 winter-month and half in Autumn/Spring. My heater is from 1997, so quite old.
You are inhumane, not your landlord.. Fkn pathetic. I feel bad for your kids, really
Doesn’t seem to be abusive though. You could always get these potable electric heaters that work really well.
wait are you using an oil heater in your enclosed rooms… because if you are your in danger of Carbon Monoxide Poisoning
Landlord seems like a reasonable nice person, willing to talk and to solve the problem..
You on the other sound absolutely insane. I bet you leave the heating on when nobody’s home..
I don’t see this as abusive without further information.
If the heaters aren’t working right despite burning so much fuel, then it sounds like the settings are wrong, maybe the water pressure is too low in the system and it needs to be recalibrated or something. Source: also use oil burning heaters
Both of you have valid points. This is not abuse. Go turn the heater off, make them a cup of tea and fugure out together if the counter is still working and is there a leak or whatever. Call a hausmeister too. Call anyone who knows anything about oil heating ffs.
Your landlord wants to talk to you to figure this out. Why are you still texting? Talk to them and find out why it’s cold in your apartment and why they are getting such high readings.
Like what’s with society these days, that yoh avoid real life conversations and jump straight to screaming about abuse and lawyers at a simple request to try to solve the situation.
You know there’s no one that can be angry at an extremely kind person. If this is the first time, let them come over for tea and be as kind as you can, be honest. If they’re still dicks then just go to court
I hate landlords with the burning passion of a million suns, but am struggling to see how they are being “abusive” here. Did you forget to include the correct screenshots or something?
Also, as others here have already suggested, you need to join a Mieterverein. And also, if you haven’t already done so, purchase renter’s insurance and legal insurance. None of those steps will be helpful now, for this situation, but you really need to have them all to protect yourself in the future. Germans use insurance very differently than you may be accustomed to.