Raising the threshold to £2.5m should help actual family farms and will reportedly only cause us to miss out on £130m.
In that regard it makes complete sense, but I can’t wrap my head around how once again they’ve gone head first into a policy only to realise the thresholds need tweaking months later.
It’s amateurish.
FootballBackground88 on
What the hell are they doing. What’s the point in backtracking now, the drama was already over and done with.
And those farmers are not going to be voting Labour anyway.
The government seems determined to take the political losses yet accomplish nothing, and with the current Tory party speed running a Reform win at next election. Infuriating.
rwinh on
Much to the delight of too many millionaire/billionaire land owners sitting on farmland as an investment rather than for farming.
I felt sorry for proper farmers as inheriting a farm with the cost of property and land today being unacceptably sky high is almost untenable, but everyone is in the same boat
Having spokespeople like Clarkson and even Dyson preaching the virtues of inheritance tax avoidance by owning farmland was pretty disgusting, especially when one was monetising it with TV programmes giving themselves a golden pat on the back for highlighting the issues and struggles farmers face (when you’re a millionaire TV personality, apparently).
FrustratedPCBuild on
Weak, pandering nonsense, as usual. They don’t stand for anything and are going to lose to Farage’s fuckwits as a result. What an absolute wasted opportunity they are. The country had suffered 14 years of corruption and incompetence, and Brexit (which combines both) and was crying out for something different, instead we have this bunch of mediocrities trying their best not to offend the morons and pensioners and therefore completely unable to achieve anything.
BenButton123 on
Great news. Outside the internet, farmers/farming is actually quite popular amongst the general public. The aggro it caused against the money it would generate really wasn’t worth it.
Sluggybeef on
I wonder if it was the suicides that got to Starmer.
And as a farmer its a bit of a stupid way they have gone about this whole thing entirely. If their plan was to protect fatmers all along then the thresholds mean nothing. Should have just been the exemption clause for farmed land and as soon as its sold tax it then.
How a lot of Europeans do it. Will be interesting to see the reaction on here as there has been a lot of championing such a poorly thought out tax.
[deleted] on
winter fuel, this….what is the point of labour? and why did they want to be in power if they clearly had no clue what to do when they got it, and will backtrack on everything if they get a bad daily mail headline…
Necessary-Product361 on
Fucking hell. This government is pushing for little change and half of that has been u-turned on
Kijamon on
Probably a shrewd move because 1 million will get a lot of “poor you” but above 2.5 million I bet a lot of that sympathy starts to dry up.
More people will get cross at any protests against it.
TwatScranner on
I wish the government would stop all this flailing and backtracking. It hurts investor confidence and damages the country.
Personal_Director441 on
stupid decision to do it in the first place without really thinking it through, glad they’ve watered it down a bit, but also frustrated that this country and its press have come to a point where when a government changes policy due to public opinion its framed as a bad thing (u-turn, climbdown pick your poison).
PaddyIsBeast on
The government can’t do anything without backtracking apparently
zim117 on
Guess they saw the footage from Europe. Not a good idea to pee if the hand that literally feeds you.
Primary-Effect-3691 on
Then anyone above that high limit should be on the hook for the full 40%
snowandrocks2 on
Good news even if it’s yet more evidence for just how incompetent and weak willed they are.
Just hope they also see sense and scrap the idiotic windfall tax on our Oil and Gas industry before it’s too late.
SilenceOfTheMareep on
Maybe this’ll get them to shut the fuck up….I have my doubts though
ElliottFlynn on
The lesson we need to learn is protest and civil disobedience works
Too many of us are scared to push back against our government when required
Puzzleheaded-Key2212 on
Thank god some sense at last
Inheritance tax should have only been paid if the farm is to be sold if the next of kin no longer wants to farm/operate it. If it stays in the family there should not be any tax.
WhileCultchie on
U turning! U turning! U turning towards 0.1% GDP growth.
Morteca on
Labour are deeply incompetent, as are the Tories and Reform. British politics is horrible.
LengthAggravating707 on
Slowly the government will realise that there is very little tax to raise and difficult decisions on spending will have to be made
Spamgrenade on
If a conservative Government were in power the media would be hailing this as a “victory for common sense”, a “generous increase” blah blah you know the sort of thing. Tory ministers would be doing victory laps, marvelling at their own generosity. The government would be hailed for listening to farmers.
This of course will go the same way as WFA for Labour. Make an adjustment and it will be called a U turn, the government will be accused of being in chaos and they will probably start speculating about Starmer being ousted again.
Labour will get nothing out of it, just like they got nothing out of raising the WFA cap. In fact hell of a lot of people seem to think that labour scrapped WFA altogether.
BTW I grew up in rural Dorset, secondary school with a catchment area of 15 miles and maybe 700 – 800 kids in the entire school. I knew a lot of farmers kids and most of them had no interest whatsoever in going into farming. If they ever inherited the family farm I’m guessing they would have sold it, tax free.
Deepmidwinter2025 on
Badenoch flapping her gums – she never has anything constructive to say – even when In government. I know it will be Jenrick replacing her – but I look forward to her being ousted.
-suspicious-badger on
There is a simple solution that would keep everyone happy.
If the farm is being passed to the next generation to carry on farming – No IHT.
If the farm is passed on to someone who is not going to continue farming, and sells it off – full IHT.
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Raising the threshold to £2.5m should help actual family farms and will reportedly only cause us to miss out on £130m.
In that regard it makes complete sense, but I can’t wrap my head around how once again they’ve gone head first into a policy only to realise the thresholds need tweaking months later.
It’s amateurish.
What the hell are they doing. What’s the point in backtracking now, the drama was already over and done with.
And those farmers are not going to be voting Labour anyway.
The government seems determined to take the political losses yet accomplish nothing, and with the current Tory party speed running a Reform win at next election. Infuriating.
Much to the delight of too many millionaire/billionaire land owners sitting on farmland as an investment rather than for farming.
I felt sorry for proper farmers as inheriting a farm with the cost of property and land today being unacceptably sky high is almost untenable, but everyone is in the same boat
Having spokespeople like Clarkson and even Dyson preaching the virtues of inheritance tax avoidance by owning farmland was pretty disgusting, especially when one was monetising it with TV programmes giving themselves a golden pat on the back for highlighting the issues and struggles farmers face (when you’re a millionaire TV personality, apparently).
Weak, pandering nonsense, as usual. They don’t stand for anything and are going to lose to Farage’s fuckwits as a result. What an absolute wasted opportunity they are. The country had suffered 14 years of corruption and incompetence, and Brexit (which combines both) and was crying out for something different, instead we have this bunch of mediocrities trying their best not to offend the morons and pensioners and therefore completely unable to achieve anything.
Great news. Outside the internet, farmers/farming is actually quite popular amongst the general public. The aggro it caused against the money it would generate really wasn’t worth it.
I wonder if it was the suicides that got to Starmer.
And as a farmer its a bit of a stupid way they have gone about this whole thing entirely. If their plan was to protect fatmers all along then the thresholds mean nothing. Should have just been the exemption clause for farmed land and as soon as its sold tax it then.
How a lot of Europeans do it. Will be interesting to see the reaction on here as there has been a lot of championing such a poorly thought out tax.
winter fuel, this….what is the point of labour? and why did they want to be in power if they clearly had no clue what to do when they got it, and will backtrack on everything if they get a bad daily mail headline…
Fucking hell. This government is pushing for little change and half of that has been u-turned on
Probably a shrewd move because 1 million will get a lot of “poor you” but above 2.5 million I bet a lot of that sympathy starts to dry up.
More people will get cross at any protests against it.
I wish the government would stop all this flailing and backtracking. It hurts investor confidence and damages the country.
stupid decision to do it in the first place without really thinking it through, glad they’ve watered it down a bit, but also frustrated that this country and its press have come to a point where when a government changes policy due to public opinion its framed as a bad thing (u-turn, climbdown pick your poison).
The government can’t do anything without backtracking apparently
Guess they saw the footage from Europe. Not a good idea to pee if the hand that literally feeds you.
Then anyone above that high limit should be on the hook for the full 40%
Good news even if it’s yet more evidence for just how incompetent and weak willed they are.
Just hope they also see sense and scrap the idiotic windfall tax on our Oil and Gas industry before it’s too late.
Maybe this’ll get them to shut the fuck up….I have my doubts though
The lesson we need to learn is protest and civil disobedience works
Too many of us are scared to push back against our government when required
Thank god some sense at last
Inheritance tax should have only been paid if the farm is to be sold if the next of kin no longer wants to farm/operate it. If it stays in the family there should not be any tax.
U turning! U turning! U turning towards 0.1% GDP growth.
Labour are deeply incompetent, as are the Tories and Reform. British politics is horrible.
Slowly the government will realise that there is very little tax to raise and difficult decisions on spending will have to be made
If a conservative Government were in power the media would be hailing this as a “victory for common sense”, a “generous increase” blah blah you know the sort of thing. Tory ministers would be doing victory laps, marvelling at their own generosity. The government would be hailed for listening to farmers.
This of course will go the same way as WFA for Labour. Make an adjustment and it will be called a U turn, the government will be accused of being in chaos and they will probably start speculating about Starmer being ousted again.
Labour will get nothing out of it, just like they got nothing out of raising the WFA cap. In fact hell of a lot of people seem to think that labour scrapped WFA altogether.
BTW I grew up in rural Dorset, secondary school with a catchment area of 15 miles and maybe 700 – 800 kids in the entire school. I knew a lot of farmers kids and most of them had no interest whatsoever in going into farming. If they ever inherited the family farm I’m guessing they would have sold it, tax free.
Badenoch flapping her gums – she never has anything constructive to say – even when In government. I know it will be Jenrick replacing her – but I look forward to her being ousted.
There is a simple solution that would keep everyone happy.
If the farm is being passed to the next generation to carry on farming – No IHT.
If the farm is passed on to someone who is not going to continue farming, and sells it off – full IHT.