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  1. Taskebab on

    Don’t give me the “we did nazi it coming” line in a couple of years though

  2. ben_howler on

    How the Germans, whose own parents and grandparents suffered horrendously under the Nazis, seem to want this type of regime again is completely beyond me.

  3. marxistopportunist on

    Good? Then maybe the other parties will start offering stuff which sounds appealing

  4. Paprika1515 on

    It’s not that far fetched for this to happen. Children of nazis are still alive and some Nazis too. Belief systems don’t disappear when unpopular, they just go unspoken and repressed until it’s safe to voice them again, and that time is now unfortunately.

  5. Truffely on

    Half of German voters have shifted to vote for add on the past 10 years. Our current reigning parties do literally everything to lose trust, including rampaging corruption and lying.

    The next elections will be like the next Machtergreifung. If you were worried about trump, rather worry about the EU turning fascist again.

    On the bright side, in a few years we will be allies with the US and Russia again…

  6. The reason extremist parties win is because the established parties are doing a bad job. The way to beat populism is to be effective and then popularity will follow.

  7. lateniteearlybird on

    It’s an issue that has a lot to do with eastern Germany. The AfD has much more support in this part of the country. Most people don’t want to hear that because the AfD wants to suggest that there is hype for the whole of Germany… which is not true. In my city, they achieved 7.5% in the last election… so let’s stop creating hype around the AfD… I would rather put pressure on their voters and accuse them of supporting fascism in Germany again… they are a disgrace to the country because of German history. 

    This babbling about understanding for AfD supporters really gets on my nerves. Or has anyone ever thought of sympathizing with German Hitler voters and supporters after the fact and looking for reasons to justify and legitimize their behavior? 

  8. TazdingoWielder on

    Just cancel the elections and be anti-democratic duh

    Merz should like… solve the country issues and such maybe that could work! Just solve everything instead of talking to 1000 people and wasting years of bureaucracy

    Stop being corrupt and lying could also help

  9. Texas43647 on

    Not particularly surprising. The pendulum of politics will always swing between extremes as long as extremes exist

  10. annoying-potatoe on

    All over Europe, this is the consequence of:

    Inexistent/lacking justice system
    Too much green policies

    In the end, people who wanted the best, did everything to ruin Europe by going too far and being disconnected from their citizens.

    It’s easy to say that the streets are safe if you’re always driven in your MB and additional tax for the green policies doesn’t change much at the end of the month. Unfortunately , that’s not the case for everyone.

  11. lesdegas11235 on

    Unfortunately, from the neighbour’s perspective, German “reunification” has failed in its sociocultural aspect. Despite optimistic agenda, multibillion investment and elaborate plans, it seems that the resentments and perceptions of the people of the former DDR are still distinctively different than those of their western kins. It is easy to blame the old people for their post-soviet mentality and their frustrated offspring for bigotry and racism, but their political attitudes must be traced back to the flaws of the integration process after the fall of the Berlin Wall. Unlike Czechia, Poland and Romania, where the collective ambition embodied in the strong spirit of the entrepreneurship led to exponential progress, the overall mood in former DDR could be likened to that of Hungary. Passive and pessimistic, without the sense of agency and devout of the healthy pride. Apparently not enough has been done to challenge the eastern German inferiority complex made of the post-nazi confusion badly swept under the heavy carpet of soviet occupation, and the following oppressive regime where the STASI informers were almost as numerous as the rest of the society they spied on. Paradoxically the paternalistic politics of reunification backed with the tons of western money, yet not without badly masked contempt for the “Ossies”, as grumpy and uncultured as the dumb and everlasting stereotype of “Eastern Europe” may be, has not revitalised the mind and soul of the current AfD voters. A short field trip to Lower Saxony would teach us more than a half a dozen of wise books asking what has actually happened. Dilapidated pre war architecture, badly severed with the communist era concrete brutalism has been randomly covered with the icing of capitalist structures of chain shopping malls and led screens broadcasting the utopian consumerism amidst the dystopian greyness of the oversized scenery where the shrinking native population gives their lebensraum to the groups of multiethnic teenagers. Their loud voices and their vitality are almost as overwhelming and out of place as those of Western German pensioners wearing golden glass frames during their bus trips to Poland in the early 1990-ties. Go visit Chemnitz, formerly Karl-Marx-Stadt. We Can Remember It for You Wholesale.

  12. Diacetyl-Morphin on

    The AfD won’t do anything good, they won’t work for the people and state, to make things better. You know what they are, people that like a certain failed artist painter from Austria.

    But the other parties, they fucked up so (!) many things in the past few years, that the AfD now has a very strong position, like around 25% on federal level and a lot more in some states, like Sachsen-Anhalt up to 38-40% (note: depends on the different sources)

    As bad as they are, the reason is that many germans are just fed up with the BS of the other parties, with one failure after another. Like problems of the economy.

    It doesn’t make it right, to vote for these guys, to make this clear. But there are reasons. Like the german debate of politics, it’s a trench warfare in the mud, where nothing goes on anymore, both sides have digged in.

    I can speak german, i just see a divided country similiar to the USA. When i check some forums, i see the extremes on both sides, like the WELT newspaper where everyone hates the left, the ZEIT or TAZ on the other side where everyone hates the right.

    Unfortunately, yes, i think history will repeat itself. Not in the exact same way, like no, Germany won’t attack Poland or something like that. But more in the ways of discrimination against minorities and other groups, with scapegoats, hatred, violence etc.

    About a ban of the party: It’s ironically this way, that because the Nazis had banned all other parties, the thing that it has very strong requirements. Only the BVerfG (supreme court) can ban a party when the other parties in the parliament initiate the process. Why did they not already do this? Like when the AfD was gaining more and more voters?

    Because, it is not as clear as many people say, that it would end with a ban. If it would fail, it could backfire, like the AfD could claim “See? We are a democratic party, even the supreme court says this!!”. The other parties are so afraid of a failure, that they don’t initiate the process.

    But even when it would be banned – successor organizations and parties would automatically be banned too, but… the angry people as voters, they won’t disappear. They will not just go back to the old parties and call it a day.

    So… it’s a really fucked up situation there. It’s seriously bad.

  13. QueefBuscemi on

    I’ve never seen anyone turn the German flag into Hitler’s haircut.

    Also using the word Volk is a bit on the nose. Or slightly below the nose. Where his moustache would be.

  14. WinterHeaven on

    I get that the current establishment is fucking up them for decades, but why do they always tend to vote for the right extreme instead of some left party?

    Ah wait, because rich people could lose something. So in the end it’s still the money that rules

  15. JewzR0ck on

    Start deporting, or get Nazis in Government.

    For fucks sake, it is not as complicated as people make it out to be

  16. The reason why I dislike Germans so much is because they behave as if they’re better than everybody else then do this kind of shit. They’ve been talking about Trump for years as if Americans are retarded and turns out they’re going the same way just slower

  17. akikiriki on

    Surely being more woke might help with this?
    Virtue signaling, islamist loving, lefties created this issue.

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