Lo spostamento di Starmer a destra per combattere la minaccia Farage è “destinato”, avverte il capo del sindacato

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-immigration-reform-nigel-farage-b2887658.html

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  1. guytakeadeepbreath on

    Of course it’s doomed. It’s what the conservatives did.

  2. South_Buy_3175 on

    Damned either way.

    He either deals with immigration and integration issues that get more prevalent each year or he ignores it entirely and lets Reform walk in on the next election.

  3. callthesomnambulance on

    He’ll never be right wing enough for potential Tory or reform voters so all his rightward shift has done is alienate traditional labour voters. I imagine the calculation is that many of them will still be forced to vote labour when the GE rolls round as the greens/lib Dems/your party won’t have a chance of winning the majority of Burroughs, but that seems like hell of a gamble given they may just decide to stay home rather than hold their noses and put an X besides Starmers ideologically confused project.

  4. Important_Ruin on

    Course it is.

    Should instead be moving to the ‘left’ and tories more to centre, leave farage to be the right wing outsider, who should then be pinned with why do you want to remove the rights of the british people?, why do you vote against enhanced employment rights for the british people? Why do you think the national minimum wage is too high for the british public? Why do you have 10 jobs and are never really in clacton or in house of commons? Why dont you vote, and when you do why do you vote against bills to improve the lifes on working british people?

    Edit: as expected downvotes.

  5. Annemon12 on

    What’s doomed is European politics for next 20-30 years after idiots brought untold levels of immigration totally fucking up social cohesion. Back when it started I predicted in 10 years europe will turn sharp right and I was right.

    I also predict that this turn to right is not done yet. In fact it is not even in middle of it because effects of recent migration are starting and whole thing will last for 20-30 years. Moreover with increasingly more right wing governments that huge amount of immigration will cause riots, more terrorism etc. as response to right wing reforms which will further push people toward right wing.

    Right now in london there are about 30% brits left, rest are non natives. Some of other cities are also in low 40-50. At those rates immigrants will start to use their power to push their politics which will cause further decohesion with natives and even wider swings, riots etc.

    It will eventually end with mass forced remigration. But that will happen maybe after 20-30 years when people will be just tired/pissed off that they will accept anything regardless of how inhumane it is.

  6. jeanclaudebrowncloud on

    Don’t try to be Reform to make Reform voters like you, because they will just vote Reform, and everyone who hates Reform will hate you too.

  7. Hitching-galaxy on

    He’s doomed because of the rich controlling the media and they do not care about what is right, only what they can control. It is pure corruption.

    The amount of awfulness with Farage, for example – he gets no scrutiny whatsoever. He literally worked with a traitor for decades and made him head of reform wales. His girlfriend has been found guilty of embezzlement, and buys a house in cash in Clacton.

    Labour MPs get hounded by the media constantly and consistently.

    If this doesn’t get fixed, we will become pro Russian like USA government

  8. kahnindustries on

    OSA

    ID Cards

    Now talk of banning VPNs

    I have voted Labour in every election, local and national, since 1999

    I will never vote for them again. Karenazis

  9. MultiMidden on

    Scotland is perceived as being more relaxed about immigration than England, a [YouGov poll](https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/53721-how-do-scots-feel-about-the-major-political-issues-december-2025) this month said that the majority of Scottish people (53%) believe there has been too much immigration into Scotland in the last decade, with only 24% thinking it’s about right and 9% thinking it’s too low.

    Also this is a teaching union leader, where the members might be a bit more ‘redditor like’, I’d be interested to see what a blue collar union leader thinks.

  10. Slight-Strategy-5619 on

    Immigration is an issue and needs to be managed. It’s not right wing to address immigration issues. It an adult conversation that needs to be had.

  11. Constant-Estate3065 on

    Why does every headline have to have the word “warns” in it these days. Get a new word journalists ffs.

  12. New-Doctor9300 on

    This is tragic. Anyone who was going to vote Reform is not going to vote Labour.

    How about actually doing something called “representing your voters interests” Starmer? Instead of further isolating them?

  13. suspiciousoaks on

    The man’s solution to every problem is to decide his party hasn’t alienated its voter base enough. It’s like watching a man whose house is on fire who insists on putting it out with gasoline.

  14. Hot-Palpitation4888 on

    Haha in fairness it’s better to do something over nothing surely?

  15. Spuzzell_ on

    It’s stupid.

    Anyone voting for Reform isn’t going to vote Labour however dogwhistle Labour try to be. Reform voters looked at the Conservative Party and thought “nope not racist and deluded enough”, they aren’t ever voting for Labour.

  16. StonedPhysicist on

    Reminder that after spending a solid year of trying to win back Reform voters by shifting right, the result is that [only 93% of Reform voters disapprove of the government instead of 94%](https://ygo-assets-websites-editorial-emea.yougov.net/images/Custom_V2.format-webp.webp), and even approval went from 2% to 1% to cancel it out.

    Hope it was all worth it losing any residual “least worst” support from anyone to the left of Nick Clegg by pandering to people who objectively hate you and won’t change their minds from voting for Proxy Trump, and wasting the last Labour majority in history. But at least you got to put the boot into “the Trots”, got some freebies, and your mates got comfy jobs, that’s what really matters.

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