This is silly and only plays into the hands of the far-right and their *we’re-under-siege* mentality. The context of the event is quite clear to all and it needn’t have been an issue.
In any case, the British Museum hardly needs to worry about its reputation going into the gutter, given the stink around them holding on to people’s artefacts despite calls to return them.
nickmasonsdrumstick on
Can’t the left and the right folks just not fuck off to a field somewhere and fight it out. That way it leaves the rest of us that don’t see politics in everything to enjoy life. Tiresome people honestly.
Andrew1990M on
This “row” is from “some staff” at the Museum. Probably literally just a couple of people asking the question.
asmiggs on
The flag needs to be used appropriately but liberally so that weirdos don’t think that they are making a statement by using zip ties to attach them to lamp posts. This seems like a good use to me.
HPB on
Palestinian flag – joyous opponents of oppression.
Scottish flag – proud civic nationalists.
German flag – tolerant, cool Europeans.
EU flag – progressive inteligensia.
GB flag – shameful flag shaggers.
ElephantSudden4097 on
As an immigrant, I think you should respect and reclaim your flags (all of them. Union Jack, England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland). Putting up flags should not be a taboo just because some people used them for political purposes.
TwiggyPom on
It’s not in poor taste but will probably look shite. Should take pride in our flag however.
Any-Ask-4190 on
Honestly, they should to something that represents true modern British values instead, perhaps have someone twerk on top of a police van?
BenButton123 on
Stories like this are why we’re speed running a Reform government.
entersandmum143 on
Hardly a ‘row’.
A few staff have said it might be in poor taste.
That’s it. That’s the article.
FroggyWinky on
I’m a Scottish Nationalist, so England tearing itself apart over the Union Jack plays very well into my hand. Top form.
Apprehensive_Home963 on
Just sad af how people feel about our own country flag.
tinytempo on
Incorporating our own flag somehow ‘sparks row’.
What an absolute joke of a country we have become.
Time to regrow some balls
Twisted_Biscuits on
Poor taste? The only poor taste is in disregarding all nuance.
Grantus89 on
It’s pushback on stuff like this that causes idiots to do stuff like put up flags. If this perfectly normal theme about an even of European cooperation had just been let to happen without comment (as it should have) then everything would be fine. As it is this article has probably directly caused a dozen of people to put up flags somewhere and generally made people more nationalist.
Harilari on
This feels like the sort of nothing-burger click bait I’d expect from the Telegraph or the mail. Who, exactly are these staff condemning the action and why should the rest of us care about an event that doesn’t even seem set in stone?
SiriusRay on
You lot realise that this is all manufactured outrage and nobody actually cares right? Imagine biting the bait this hard.
CarlxtosWay on
An event celebrating the shared history of Britain and France should be something they support as a pro-European newspaper but the Guardian just can’t resist the temptation to spin it into a story about some culture war nonsense.
Crimson__Fox on
We need to reclaim our flag from the white supremacists.
AMoonMonkey on
Only thing I don’t like about this is that the term “red, white and blue” has pretty much been coined by the yanks and it sounds too “American” now.
Can we not call it something better 😂
Average_sheep1411 on
It’s a small population of people running with something, offended on other people’s behalf. They always existed but the media is sensationalism triviality now they can’t do celebrities. People from common wealth countries do not care about a ball they are probably more interested in what artefacts they have which has cultural significance to their race.
Astriania on
Anyone who is upset by this plan needs to have a long hard look at themselves.
Have some racists been flying our flag to try to make a racist point? Yes. However, that is no reason to concede the entire use of the symbol to groups like that. It is *our flag*, not (just) theirs. This is exactly the sort of healthy use of national symbols that everyone should support.
Unfortunately there is still that strong strain among British intellectuals (identified by Orwell) that finds British and English national symbols distasteful. They will happily fly the flag of Palestine or Jamaica or India and celebrate their culture, but not their own.
This is a particularly good theme because it’s to celebrate the cooperation with France – also a red, white and blue country – over the Bayeux tapestry. And that makes it all the more ridiculous to get sensitive about it.
PM_ME_YOUR_STOMACHS on
Nearly every comment (and the article itself) is missing the main controversy of the event.
The daughter of *the richest man in Asia* and the heir to a fossil fuel empire is co-sponsoring this.
Forget the flag stuff, this event is just an excuse for rich people to show off. There’s even a photo of Naomi Campbell posing for good measure. Get fucked the lot of them.
Low_Border_2231 on
Some staff, could be barely a murmur made out to be more than it is.
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How is this poor taste?
It’s our flag.
What a strange time to be alive.
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This is silly and only plays into the hands of the far-right and their *we’re-under-siege* mentality. The context of the event is quite clear to all and it needn’t have been an issue.
In any case, the British Museum hardly needs to worry about its reputation going into the gutter, given the stink around them holding on to people’s artefacts despite calls to return them.
Can’t the left and the right folks just not fuck off to a field somewhere and fight it out. That way it leaves the rest of us that don’t see politics in everything to enjoy life. Tiresome people honestly.
This “row” is from “some staff” at the Museum. Probably literally just a couple of people asking the question.
The flag needs to be used appropriately but liberally so that weirdos don’t think that they are making a statement by using zip ties to attach them to lamp posts. This seems like a good use to me.
Palestinian flag – joyous opponents of oppression.
Scottish flag – proud civic nationalists.
German flag – tolerant, cool Europeans.
EU flag – progressive inteligensia.
GB flag – shameful flag shaggers.
As an immigrant, I think you should respect and reclaim your flags (all of them. Union Jack, England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland). Putting up flags should not be a taboo just because some people used them for political purposes.
It’s not in poor taste but will probably look shite. Should take pride in our flag however.
Honestly, they should to something that represents true modern British values instead, perhaps have someone twerk on top of a police van?
Stories like this are why we’re speed running a Reform government.
Hardly a ‘row’.
A few staff have said it might be in poor taste.
That’s it. That’s the article.
I’m a Scottish Nationalist, so England tearing itself apart over the Union Jack plays very well into my hand. Top form.
Just sad af how people feel about our own country flag.
Incorporating our own flag somehow ‘sparks row’.
What an absolute joke of a country we have become.
Time to regrow some balls
Poor taste? The only poor taste is in disregarding all nuance.
It’s pushback on stuff like this that causes idiots to do stuff like put up flags. If this perfectly normal theme about an even of European cooperation had just been let to happen without comment (as it should have) then everything would be fine. As it is this article has probably directly caused a dozen of people to put up flags somewhere and generally made people more nationalist.
This feels like the sort of nothing-burger click bait I’d expect from the Telegraph or the mail. Who, exactly are these staff condemning the action and why should the rest of us care about an event that doesn’t even seem set in stone?
You lot realise that this is all manufactured outrage and nobody actually cares right? Imagine biting the bait this hard.
An event celebrating the shared history of Britain and France should be something they support as a pro-European newspaper but the Guardian just can’t resist the temptation to spin it into a story about some culture war nonsense.
We need to reclaim our flag from the white supremacists.
Only thing I don’t like about this is that the term “red, white and blue” has pretty much been coined by the yanks and it sounds too “American” now.
Can we not call it something better 😂
It’s a small population of people running with something, offended on other people’s behalf. They always existed but the media is sensationalism triviality now they can’t do celebrities. People from common wealth countries do not care about a ball they are probably more interested in what artefacts they have which has cultural significance to their race.
Anyone who is upset by this plan needs to have a long hard look at themselves.
Have some racists been flying our flag to try to make a racist point? Yes. However, that is no reason to concede the entire use of the symbol to groups like that. It is *our flag*, not (just) theirs. This is exactly the sort of healthy use of national symbols that everyone should support.
Unfortunately there is still that strong strain among British intellectuals (identified by Orwell) that finds British and English national symbols distasteful. They will happily fly the flag of Palestine or Jamaica or India and celebrate their culture, but not their own.
This is a particularly good theme because it’s to celebrate the cooperation with France – also a red, white and blue country – over the Bayeux tapestry. And that makes it all the more ridiculous to get sensitive about it.
Nearly every comment (and the article itself) is missing the main controversy of the event.
The daughter of *the richest man in Asia* and the heir to a fossil fuel empire is co-sponsoring this.
Forget the flag stuff, this event is just an excuse for rich people to show off. There’s even a photo of Naomi Campbell posing for good measure. Get fucked the lot of them.
Some staff, could be barely a murmur made out to be more than it is.