Gleeful old biddies celebrating equal pay for easier work after the inept council brought the city to its knees (in Birmingham’s case)
aredddit on
I wouldn’t want to tar all the claims with the same brush but some of them are utter nonsense. For example, I can fully understand why a bin man would be paid more than someone doing office admin.
Commercial-Silver472 on
Suprised they are happy to show their faces publicly like this after essentially robbing all their neighbours of funding for public services.
Deadliftdeadlife on
Genuinely, why do any of the jobs if they’re paid the same?
Good luck getting bin men now when loads realise the easier more comfortable jobs pay the same
GBParragon on
It’s a hard one…
I don’t think you can compare teaching assistants and Mobile Waste collection and Management technicians (dustmen).
Teaching assistants are really valuable roles, playing a key part in educating our children with a good TA being as valueable as a good teacher, they have generally good working conditions, with teen time contracts, start times that work around child care.
Refuse collection is also vital to society and has generally awful working conditions. Physically demanding, out in all weathers, highly repetitive
chaircardigan on
Am I misunderstanding this?
There are different jobs. Those different jobs get paid different amounts, depending how how physically demanding, dangerous or otherwise unappealing those jobs are.
Some people applied for and accepted jobs that were not very dangerous, physically demanding or otherwise unappealing and got paid for doing them.
But now they are getting back paid as if they applied for and did physically demanding, dangerous and unappealing jobs?
Is that right?
shevbo on
How do you judge that two jobs have equal value…when the jobs are different?
arncl on
At this point I’m genuinely convinced some of you are intentionally misunderstanding this situation to try and stir up hatred.
Nobody is saying that heavy manual jobs shouldn’t be paid more than simpler less manual jobs. Unfortunately, when the various employers set their pay structures, rather than recognising this basic fact, they instead chose to give each job the same basic rate, and then top-up the pay of manual jobs with extra overtime rates and bonuses. This extra money wasn’t available to those with the less manual jobs, despite them – on paper – doing a job of equivalence to the more manual jobs.
The blame here doesn’t sit with these women, they are entitled to ask for fairness under the rules that existed at the time. The blame lies with the employers who wrote the crappy rules to try and cut corners.
inebriatedWeasel on
For me, you have to pay me more to be a TA or a cleaner than a dustman so good on them!
Witty_Entry9120 on
You have to admit – this farce will result in councils fortifying themselves to avoid this happening again.
And no, that doesn’t mean paying everyone the bonus just incase.
xParesh on
They should have a rota of duties so everyone on the same band gets one day to work outside and empty bin while those who were doing the bins get to work in a cosy office. It shouldn’t be a problem for those wanting the equal pay if they consider to the work be to of equal value and effort.
Due-Somewhere-1790 on
The courts decide peoples salaries now instead of employers. We are so fucked.
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Gleeful old biddies celebrating equal pay for easier work after the inept council brought the city to its knees (in Birmingham’s case)
I wouldn’t want to tar all the claims with the same brush but some of them are utter nonsense. For example, I can fully understand why a bin man would be paid more than someone doing office admin.
Suprised they are happy to show their faces publicly like this after essentially robbing all their neighbours of funding for public services.
Genuinely, why do any of the jobs if they’re paid the same?
Good luck getting bin men now when loads realise the easier more comfortable jobs pay the same
It’s a hard one…
I don’t think you can compare teaching assistants and Mobile Waste collection and Management technicians (dustmen).
Teaching assistants are really valuable roles, playing a key part in educating our children with a good TA being as valueable as a good teacher, they have generally good working conditions, with teen time contracts, start times that work around child care.
Refuse collection is also vital to society and has generally awful working conditions. Physically demanding, out in all weathers, highly repetitive
Am I misunderstanding this?
There are different jobs. Those different jobs get paid different amounts, depending how how physically demanding, dangerous or otherwise unappealing those jobs are.
Some people applied for and accepted jobs that were not very dangerous, physically demanding or otherwise unappealing and got paid for doing them.
But now they are getting back paid as if they applied for and did physically demanding, dangerous and unappealing jobs?
Is that right?
How do you judge that two jobs have equal value…when the jobs are different?
At this point I’m genuinely convinced some of you are intentionally misunderstanding this situation to try and stir up hatred.
Nobody is saying that heavy manual jobs shouldn’t be paid more than simpler less manual jobs. Unfortunately, when the various employers set their pay structures, rather than recognising this basic fact, they instead chose to give each job the same basic rate, and then top-up the pay of manual jobs with extra overtime rates and bonuses. This extra money wasn’t available to those with the less manual jobs, despite them – on paper – doing a job of equivalence to the more manual jobs.
The blame here doesn’t sit with these women, they are entitled to ask for fairness under the rules that existed at the time. The blame lies with the employers who wrote the crappy rules to try and cut corners.
For me, you have to pay me more to be a TA or a cleaner than a dustman so good on them!
You have to admit – this farce will result in councils fortifying themselves to avoid this happening again.
And no, that doesn’t mean paying everyone the bonus just incase.
They should have a rota of duties so everyone on the same band gets one day to work outside and empty bin while those who were doing the bins get to work in a cosy office. It shouldn’t be a problem for those wanting the equal pay if they consider to the work be to of equal value and effort.
The courts decide peoples salaries now instead of employers. We are so fucked.