That slippery slope that plenty of people warned about but got told was an overreaction and never going to happen?
This is the slope
May as well just shut it down like the Iranians
Kind-County9767 on
Oh look, entirely expected expansion of labours newest snooping law that was purely brought in to spy on people is expanded to spy on people. What a shock
Inserteggpunshere on
Online Surveillance Act just doing Online Surveillance Act things
OGSyedIsEverywhere on
Soon there’ll be pre-emptive scanning of on-device browser usage.
peachy1990x on
Ahh i remember when the chinese government implemented this was quite effective at stopping free speech, lovely.
Cabrakan on
what the fuck is with this government
the anti grok shit is good, but they really cannot let a good idea, or a good headline, or a good bill go unpunished
Old_Hamster1264 on
Anyone with half a braincell knew it had nothing to do with grok just like digital ID had nothing to do with stopping the boats, it’s just another excuse to sneak in communist control.
LostForALongTime on
This is torrid. Even for the “nothing to hide, nothing to fear” side, the fact it’s happening at all opens doors for bad actors to exploit this in the future
Mclarenrob2 on
How will anyone ever know what’s really going on in the country without the truth being told on social media?
Old-Information3311 on
The ai companies that will do this will be using this information to do cambridge analytica style political manipulation.
wkavinsky on
And everyone called it at the time.
It’s the same shit as the US, just done quieter.
You will have no privacy, and be happy for it.
Djremster on
Given the number of times I’ve been banned on reddit for sarcasm I doubt a robotic system is capable of accurately telling what is or isn’t illegal content.
HumanWithInternet on
And now all the women and children will be safe forever. Thanks Labour /s
fgalv on
How, exactly, is this going to be implemented? The example video from DSIT is insanity – how would they force Apple to preemptively scan an airdropped photo? How will this work where nearly every messaging app is e2e encrypted? Maybe it could work on public forums such as Twitter or facebook, where the platform could possibly scan a post before it appears online?
I just feel this hasn’t been actually thought through.
Goosepond01 on
a big screw you to all the people who told me I was spouting nonsense and that we never have to worry about this sort of thing.
One-Cod-5049 on
Abolishing juries
Tracking online activity
Digital ID
Mandating backdoors into encryption
Who voted for any of this?
08148694 on
Just a few months ago Reddit would call you a far right conspiracy theorist for suggesting the government might do something this authoritarian
Bobo3076 on
The most predictable outcome from this grok shit.
How much privacy do we have to lose before we protest?
tall-glassof-falooda on
Will they also like my stool sample on the 1st of every month? Maybe I am eating or not eating government approved things.
Sorry-Programmer9826 on
If this is to prevent cyber flashing surely it could be done on the receivers end, allowing them to turn it off if they want (and so not have all messages sent to them scanned).
Why does it need to be on for everyone. Law ought to be “you have to provide this feature and let people turn it on for messages they receive if they like”
creepinghippo on
Why are the government so paranoid about what we are doing, it like projection of what they are up to.
DukePPUk on
Just for the avoidance of doubt, the UK didn’t expand the OSA to mandate pre-emptive scanning of digital communications.
The headline is a flat-out lie.
They’re referring to some of the stuff also discussed today about holding Twitter etc. to account for sharing stuff they shouldn’t be sharing.
Reclaim-the-Net is a shadowy right-wing blog which has pushed anti-vax, conspiracy theory and far-right nonsense over the last few years.
Electronic_Tell1294 on
These fuckers really trying to arrest me for wanking
Plus-Literature-7221 on
> Compliance will require platforms to perform mass scanning of messages, images, and uploads across their networks, even in spaces traditionally regarded as private
Thats perverted labour and conservative mps for you. Wanting to spy on citizens private communications the creeps.
OliverE36 on
Reform UK are going to be the government in a couple years – this isn’t a good idea.
rdu3y6 on
We really are living in a shit (sorry UK spybot – arrest me for swearing!) time aren’t we? We’ve got all the authoritarian control of China together with the decaying infrastructure and defunded public services of Britain. No wonder people are feeling fed up and pessimistic!
AdSevere7701 on
Setup new iPhone yesterday
Settings > iCloud > Advanced Data protection
“Apple can no longer offer Advanced Data Protection in to United Kingdom to new users.”
Says it all really
BeardMonk1 on
TBH the only real way that your going to get to what the government wants to do (which is ham fisted in the extreme and really doesn’t understand the issues) is going to be device level scanning. Any phone sold in the UK is going to have to have some sort of UK approved device level scanning tech or software that scans and detects all images. videos and messages taken or sent by the device. That device will have to registered to an individual.
App level scanning is really not a solution UNLESS you require any app in an app store sold in the UK to have a Gov issues scanning app incorporated into it.
Its easier to do it at the device level.
But I work in the combatting of online child sexual abuse. And I say….. Fuck that.
soundguyjon on
I guess all of us that oppose this complete shit are also Saville apologist nonces like last time right?
sideshowrob2 on
Remember this next time you are laughing at someone’s genuine concerns around having every single action you take in society being linked to a single digital ID, a single online profile, and stored in a central database.
Yeah, would be totally crazy for a govt who lies to you daily to implement a system where its so easy to surveil you, profile you, and target you, and punish you for whatever the current powers decide at the time.
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That slippery slope that plenty of people warned about but got told was an overreaction and never going to happen?
This is the slope
May as well just shut it down like the Iranians
Oh look, entirely expected expansion of labours newest snooping law that was purely brought in to spy on people is expanded to spy on people. What a shock
Online Surveillance Act just doing Online Surveillance Act things
Soon there’ll be pre-emptive scanning of on-device browser usage.
Ahh i remember when the chinese government implemented this was quite effective at stopping free speech, lovely.
what the fuck is with this government
the anti grok shit is good, but they really cannot let a good idea, or a good headline, or a good bill go unpunished
Anyone with half a braincell knew it had nothing to do with grok just like digital ID had nothing to do with stopping the boats, it’s just another excuse to sneak in communist control.
This is torrid. Even for the “nothing to hide, nothing to fear” side, the fact it’s happening at all opens doors for bad actors to exploit this in the future
How will anyone ever know what’s really going on in the country without the truth being told on social media?
The ai companies that will do this will be using this information to do cambridge analytica style political manipulation.
And everyone called it at the time.
It’s the same shit as the US, just done quieter.
You will have no privacy, and be happy for it.
Given the number of times I’ve been banned on reddit for sarcasm I doubt a robotic system is capable of accurately telling what is or isn’t illegal content.
And now all the women and children will be safe forever. Thanks Labour /s
How, exactly, is this going to be implemented? The example video from DSIT is insanity – how would they force Apple to preemptively scan an airdropped photo? How will this work where nearly every messaging app is e2e encrypted? Maybe it could work on public forums such as Twitter or facebook, where the platform could possibly scan a post before it appears online?
I just feel this hasn’t been actually thought through.
a big screw you to all the people who told me I was spouting nonsense and that we never have to worry about this sort of thing.
Abolishing juries
Tracking online activity
Digital ID
Mandating backdoors into encryption
Who voted for any of this?
Just a few months ago Reddit would call you a far right conspiracy theorist for suggesting the government might do something this authoritarian
The most predictable outcome from this grok shit.
How much privacy do we have to lose before we protest?
Will they also like my stool sample on the 1st of every month? Maybe I am eating or not eating government approved things.
If this is to prevent cyber flashing surely it could be done on the receivers end, allowing them to turn it off if they want (and so not have all messages sent to them scanned).
Why does it need to be on for everyone. Law ought to be “you have to provide this feature and let people turn it on for messages they receive if they like”
Why are the government so paranoid about what we are doing, it like projection of what they are up to.
Just for the avoidance of doubt, the UK didn’t expand the OSA to mandate pre-emptive scanning of digital communications.
The headline is a flat-out lie.
They’re referring to some of the stuff also discussed today about holding Twitter etc. to account for sharing stuff they shouldn’t be sharing.
Reclaim-the-Net is a shadowy right-wing blog which has pushed anti-vax, conspiracy theory and far-right nonsense over the last few years.
These fuckers really trying to arrest me for wanking
> Compliance will require platforms to perform mass scanning of messages, images, and uploads across their networks, even in spaces traditionally regarded as private
Thats perverted labour and conservative mps for you. Wanting to spy on citizens private communications the creeps.
Reform UK are going to be the government in a couple years – this isn’t a good idea.
We really are living in a shit (sorry UK spybot – arrest me for swearing!) time aren’t we? We’ve got all the authoritarian control of China together with the decaying infrastructure and defunded public services of Britain. No wonder people are feeling fed up and pessimistic!
Setup new iPhone yesterday
Settings > iCloud > Advanced Data protection
“Apple can no longer offer Advanced Data Protection in to United Kingdom to new users.”
Says it all really
TBH the only real way that your going to get to what the government wants to do (which is ham fisted in the extreme and really doesn’t understand the issues) is going to be device level scanning. Any phone sold in the UK is going to have to have some sort of UK approved device level scanning tech or software that scans and detects all images. videos and messages taken or sent by the device. That device will have to registered to an individual.
App level scanning is really not a solution UNLESS you require any app in an app store sold in the UK to have a Gov issues scanning app incorporated into it.
Its easier to do it at the device level.
But I work in the combatting of online child sexual abuse. And I say….. Fuck that.
I guess all of us that oppose this complete shit are also Saville apologist nonces like last time right?
Remember this next time you are laughing at someone’s genuine concerns around having every single action you take in society being linked to a single digital ID, a single online profile, and stored in a central database.
Yeah, would be totally crazy for a govt who lies to you daily to implement a system where its so easy to surveil you, profile you, and target you, and punish you for whatever the current powers decide at the time.