It’s not a clearcut case, man is in a wheelchair for life, and wasn’t being aggressive – trying to evade at the time.
Jaded_Strain_3753 on
I respect the jury’s verdict on the criminal charge but I don’t think the PCs actions were good here. Guessing he’ll probably face separate disciplinary action from the police.
This PC was doing the job he is employed to do, solve crime and capture criminals.
He did not hit the criminal or use any unnecessary force on him like hit him while on the floor. He used none lethal tools available to him to apprehend a criminal who otherwise would be at large committing more crime.
Now this criminal is in a wheel chair it is unfortunate, but society and the neighbourhood is safer.
therealharbinger on
Lol the left says..
He was running from the police got tasered but had rights to run away as was harmless.
Not obeying the police.. perfectly legit, I wonder why so many burglary cases are never closed here. Because they all keep getting away.
You hear that Reddit.. people want burglars to get away.
FoxtrotThem on
Imagine being so wet you need you to electrocute a 61yo man; I bet he is the first to start doing a conga at a diversity drive.
l1ckeur on
Blimey a judge with common sense who didn’t favour the criminal!
iamezekiel1_14 on
Let’s be frank – if this was the States, probably Tennessee vs Garner comes into play and this person would have been 6ft under some time ago. Arguably the person is very lucky in the circumstances.
iamezekiel1_14 on
Let’s be frank – if this was the States, probably Tennessee vs Garner comes into play and this person would have been 6ft under some time ago. Arguably the person is very lucky in the circumstances.
TellMeManyStories on
I really want police to have a clear set of “best practice” and “acceptable practice”.
Best practice in this case would have been to wait until the suspect wasn’t atop a fence to tase them. Or to capture them without the need for a taser at all.
But acceptable practice should be anything where there was a good chance of catching the offender with low chances of serious injuries. In *this* case, the injuries were huge, but it seems that’s mostly down to very bad luck.
Only in cases where police act outside acceptable practice should we be talking about prosecution or compensation. Frequent deviation from best practice, but still within acceptable practice would be the sort of thing tracked via internal metrics and incentives.
Simple_Joys on
Why did this even go to trial? Why does the IOPC need to conduct its own misconduct investigation when he has been found not guilty in a court of law?
I have my own criticisms of the police, but who’d want to be an on-the-beat office if they get treated like this whenever they’re forced to resort to force?
PixieBaronicsi on
People like this really should have their sentence extended for having the audacity to make a complaint. It shows a lack of remorse or insight into their behaviour
concretepigeon on
I think an unforeseen consequence of scrapping jury trials would be that a lot of police being found for things done in the line of duty that judges would deem to be an offence by the letter of the law but that members of the public see as reasonable in the circumstances.
fitzgoldy on
Fair decision.
Unfortunate how it worked out for the burglar but that’s a risk you take.
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It’s not a clearcut case, man is in a wheelchair for life, and wasn’t being aggressive – trying to evade at the time.
I respect the jury’s verdict on the criminal charge but I don’t think the PCs actions were good here. Guessing he’ll probably face separate disciplinary action from the police.
[The Independent has the video](https://www.independent.co.uk/bulletin/news/metropolitan-police-officer-liam-newman-tasered-video-b2896731.html)
This PC was doing the job he is employed to do, solve crime and capture criminals.
He did not hit the criminal or use any unnecessary force on him like hit him while on the floor. He used none lethal tools available to him to apprehend a criminal who otherwise would be at large committing more crime.
Now this criminal is in a wheel chair it is unfortunate, but society and the neighbourhood is safer.
Lol the left says..
He was running from the police got tasered but had rights to run away as was harmless.
Not obeying the police.. perfectly legit, I wonder why so many burglary cases are never closed here. Because they all keep getting away.
You hear that Reddit.. people want burglars to get away.
Imagine being so wet you need you to electrocute a 61yo man; I bet he is the first to start doing a conga at a diversity drive.
Blimey a judge with common sense who didn’t favour the criminal!
Let’s be frank – if this was the States, probably Tennessee vs Garner comes into play and this person would have been 6ft under some time ago. Arguably the person is very lucky in the circumstances.
Let’s be frank – if this was the States, probably Tennessee vs Garner comes into play and this person would have been 6ft under some time ago. Arguably the person is very lucky in the circumstances.
I really want police to have a clear set of “best practice” and “acceptable practice”.
Best practice in this case would have been to wait until the suspect wasn’t atop a fence to tase them. Or to capture them without the need for a taser at all.
But acceptable practice should be anything where there was a good chance of catching the offender with low chances of serious injuries. In *this* case, the injuries were huge, but it seems that’s mostly down to very bad luck.
Only in cases where police act outside acceptable practice should we be talking about prosecution or compensation. Frequent deviation from best practice, but still within acceptable practice would be the sort of thing tracked via internal metrics and incentives.
Why did this even go to trial? Why does the IOPC need to conduct its own misconduct investigation when he has been found not guilty in a court of law?
I have my own criticisms of the police, but who’d want to be an on-the-beat office if they get treated like this whenever they’re forced to resort to force?
People like this really should have their sentence extended for having the audacity to make a complaint. It shows a lack of remorse or insight into their behaviour
I think an unforeseen consequence of scrapping jury trials would be that a lot of police being found for things done in the line of duty that judges would deem to be an offence by the letter of the law but that members of the public see as reasonable in the circumstances.
Fair decision.
Unfortunate how it worked out for the burglar but that’s a risk you take.
Yet again, bullshit that went to trial though.