I mean, yes, but no. The issue isn’t whether there is alg of free area in rooftops, it’s whether it is cost effective to build and install panels in loads of different rooftops, in different orientations and sizes and models at different moments, comparing to using the same amount of resources to install panels in much fewer but much larger and more uniform places. And that is… Doubtful.
ExpressGovernment420 on
Yeah and? We have installed them on the house. For now we have yearly neto system, where we use energy we have produced before, when solar is off. That is fine and great.
But, in few years, this system goes away and instead we are paid for what we produce. However, we produce during summer, when energy costs are low, but in winter we consume and they are insanely high.
So the result is, we as solar panel owners will be losing a lot of money. Yet big solar farms and wind farms will be compensated by subsidies and consumers during off hours. Seems a bit unfair for small house owners.
totallyclips on
You really didn’t need a study to tell you that the best place for solar panels is the roof. No wonder people despair at the eu
khassius on
Yeah, but my neighbourhood’s grid won’t allow every houses to have solar panels otherwise there’s too much power going back to the grid and then the system doesn’t work anymore
dattokyo on
The biggest issue with solar power, is that the panels are buttfuck ugly, and take way too long to pay themselves off.
I’m somewhat in the middle of looking to buy a house, and in Denmark, all the houses up for sale also come with an automated PDF on how to improve energy costs. Solar panels are almost always in the reports – and are estimated at taking roughly 20 years to earn themselves back. Bro, after 20 years, you’ll need to replace them!!
Plus, as I said, hella ugly. There’s much nicer ones now, that basically look more like regular roof tiles, but they cost so much that they basically never earn themselves back before needing to be replaced.
Solar is still, for most people, just not really worth it, especially not up north where we don’t get tons of sunshine. 20 years, bro, yikes.
thallazar on
Is this… news to Europe? Rooftop solar standard in countries like Aus/Canada/USA.
giMekkI on
And batteries are coming down in price allowing homeowners to use their own stored power, even help the grid.
Educational_Will1963 on
where I live, we are forbidden to have solar panels
Andy016 on
This needed a study ???
Wtf ?
Tman11S on
They already are, to the point where China can easily cause a brown out by remotely turning off our solar panel transformers
SandVir on
Now focus on massive storage
mmalmeida on
The problem is China will sell all those solar panels.
Changaco on
Most of Europe is too cloudy and too far from the Equator for solar power to be truly competitive compared to most parts of the world. Don’t believe me? Look at the [Global Solar Atlas](https://globalsolaratlas.info/map).
Of course that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t invest in solar power, just that it can’t make European electricity competitive.
Vossky on
Too bad there is a wild lack of regulation, in France I get scam phonecalls about solar panels almost on a daily basis. If I would want solar panels installed and just start googling it, most results are scams. A ton of people get scammed and I’ve seen countless news stories on this subject.
blackburnduck on
So glad to see our taxes funding such groundbreaking discoveries
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Isn’t that obvious?
The grid wants to say e few things here.
It makes more sense than cutting forests or destroy farmland for that.
Guys, just so you know – pretty much any flat surface outside could a source of solar power. I know, incredible.
This is news?!
Sure if your government also keeps expanding your powergrid…
r/noshitsherlock
I mean, better than EU basements I suppose?
GENIUS!
Well yeah, I live in the cold darkland, and even here they’re very effective.
Not to mention highways
We need local storage and grid overhaul. MEGA, Make Europe Great Again.
Wow, what else did they find out? Water is wet?
Kakoulaki, G., Kenny, R., Nigel, T. at the [Joint Research Centre](https://commission.europa.eu/about/departments-and-executive-agencies/joint-research-centre_en#contact), thanks.
Wow, groundbreaking.
Should be mandatory for all planning permission.
I mean, yes, but no. The issue isn’t whether there is alg of free area in rooftops, it’s whether it is cost effective to build and install panels in loads of different rooftops, in different orientations and sizes and models at different moments, comparing to using the same amount of resources to install panels in much fewer but much larger and more uniform places. And that is… Doubtful.
Yeah and? We have installed them on the house. For now we have yearly neto system, where we use energy we have produced before, when solar is off. That is fine and great.
But, in few years, this system goes away and instead we are paid for what we produce. However, we produce during summer, when energy costs are low, but in winter we consume and they are insanely high.
So the result is, we as solar panel owners will be losing a lot of money. Yet big solar farms and wind farms will be compensated by subsidies and consumers during off hours. Seems a bit unfair for small house owners.
You really didn’t need a study to tell you that the best place for solar panels is the roof. No wonder people despair at the eu
Yeah, but my neighbourhood’s grid won’t allow every houses to have solar panels otherwise there’s too much power going back to the grid and then the system doesn’t work anymore
The biggest issue with solar power, is that the panels are buttfuck ugly, and take way too long to pay themselves off.
I’m somewhat in the middle of looking to buy a house, and in Denmark, all the houses up for sale also come with an automated PDF on how to improve energy costs. Solar panels are almost always in the reports – and are estimated at taking roughly 20 years to earn themselves back. Bro, after 20 years, you’ll need to replace them!!
Plus, as I said, hella ugly. There’s much nicer ones now, that basically look more like regular roof tiles, but they cost so much that they basically never earn themselves back before needing to be replaced.
Solar is still, for most people, just not really worth it, especially not up north where we don’t get tons of sunshine. 20 years, bro, yikes.
Is this… news to Europe? Rooftop solar standard in countries like Aus/Canada/USA.
And batteries are coming down in price allowing homeowners to use their own stored power, even help the grid.
where I live, we are forbidden to have solar panels
This needed a study ???
Wtf ?
They already are, to the point where China can easily cause a brown out by remotely turning off our solar panel transformers
Now focus on massive storage
The problem is China will sell all those solar panels.
Most of Europe is too cloudy and too far from the Equator for solar power to be truly competitive compared to most parts of the world. Don’t believe me? Look at the [Global Solar Atlas](https://globalsolaratlas.info/map).
Of course that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t invest in solar power, just that it can’t make European electricity competitive.
Too bad there is a wild lack of regulation, in France I get scam phonecalls about solar panels almost on a daily basis. If I would want solar panels installed and just start googling it, most results are scams. A ton of people get scammed and I’ve seen countless news stories on this subject.
So glad to see our taxes funding such groundbreaking discoveries