I fact checker affermano di non riuscire a trovare questa frase in ceco, spagnolo o tedesco. Questa traduzione è in una delle lingue regionali ceche di 85 anni fa?

La storia che viene raccontata è che dopo che un soldato delle SS fu ucciso in questo villaggio, i tedeschi rasero al suolo il villaggio, uccisero tutti gli uomini e imprigionarono e gasarono le donne e i bambini, il che è vero.

La verifica dei fatti deriva dal fatto che i nazisti usarono questa frase per ricordare ai residenti questo evento come avvertimento su ciò che sarebbe potuto accadere loro.

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  1. Familiar_Cow_6901 on

    I don’t know the orgins of the slogan, but the story is so altered it hurts.

    It was not SS soldier, but main Protector of Protectorate Bohemia and Moravia. He was called Reinhard Heydrich, and he was one if the most cruel, disgusting and highest ranked SS officers in the whole Third Reich.

    He was not killed in a village, but assassinated by two Czech resistance agents operating from London. They assassinated him in Prague in his personal car.

    The villages were actually two, Lidice and Ležáky, and they were chosen randomly. Almost every men, women and children were killed.

    If I remember correctly, this slogan is really connected to this monstrosity called Heydrichiáda.

  2. PuzzleheadedDoor6456 on

    I don’t think this is the actual sentence that was ever said. Yet, the spirit of the phrase feels pretty accurate.

  3. VrsoviceBlues on

    There’s no evidence that the phrase itself is a legit, verifiable quote.

    However.

    It is an accurate reflection of the policies of the Germans and collaborators in occupied areas, especially in Slavic countries, the Balkans, and on the Eastern Front. Various public proclamations and broadsheets still exist which laid out the number of civilians who were to be executed, deported, and evicted for each act of resistance: X, Y, Z numbers for injuring a German soldier, XX, YY, ZZ for killing one, etc etc etc. Other broadsheets, also still extant, are orders for all inhabitants of Village XXX to report to a certain location the following morning, where (for instance) ten men would be chosen at random and shot in retaliation for some act of resistance which had occurred in the area. Still others, posted in public after the executions/deportations/evictions, detailed the numbers of people punished in each way and the reason for this retaliation. This was all true for the Lidice/Ležaky Masscres. Among people who study the German occupations, let alone the populations which descend from their victims, this is a well-known set of facts.

    Given that the Trump Regime has been flaunting their Nazi-adjacent ideology (and some of their functionaries being outed as Nazis in fact), I find it hard to believe that this phrase is an accident. It’s not a Nazi phrase, but it evokes a well-known German set of policies in a very recognisable way.

    It’s got Stephen Miller’s grubby little capo fingerprints all 9ver it.

  4. GoofyDandelion on

    I am from Czechia.
    And does it matter if it was said by Nazis in Third Reich, or Spanish fascists?
    It sounds pretty self explanatory and horrendous on its own, especially after Minneapolis.
    They are fascists. Period.

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